From bjoern@opengroupware.org Thu Jul 10 02:45:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A8818F4F4 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:45:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01070-10 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:45:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6193918F4F3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:45:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D58754AB for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:51:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id E7C9F42090 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:50:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (mac.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.176]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id A04E442079 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:46:56 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Bjoern Stierand To: OpenGroupware.org Discuss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <01D2F1B4-B270-11D7-9107-000393BBAFF6@opengroupware.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Administrativa Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Please Ignore This Mail From dmachi@vt.edu Thu Jul 10 18:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEBE18F5C7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30402-06 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:00:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (struct.sockaddr.net [64.4.107.230]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E0918F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:00:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AG1awV004316 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:01:36 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6AG1aJf004314 for discuss@opengroupware.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:01:36 -0400 From: Dustin Machi Reply-To: dmachi@vt.edu To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Virginia Bioinformatics Institute Message-Id: <1057852896.4281.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 10 Jul 2003 12:01:36 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Couple of Items for thought Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Couple of items for thought : 1. I have a webservices based contact server that I would be interested in donating/integrating with OO. It is not currently available for download, but I believe that I can get it through the IP office and out onto the opensource market if anyone is interested. I am unsure if webservices is an approach you are considering for some of this groupware. Basically it is a 100% java ws (using tomcat and axis) and allows for full contact information to be stored, search, updated, etc. There are no limits to the number of records (where it makes sense, such as in addresses, phone numbers, etc) and types of those same items are definable (ie, fax, home, office, cel phones, etc). It also allows for such features as user and group permissions to read and write (at the level of a field) contact records. Additionally for all of those individuals that are lucky enough to have assistants type this informaiton in for them, it allows for delegation (proxy ownership). There is currently only a minimal (not fully functioning for all users) php (with XML and SOAP) based interface. 2. In addition to this contact service, I have interest in a particular feature set. I am not sure if this would be included in what others call "groupware" but in this case I do nonetheless. I have the need to establish a collaborative writing environment. Being involve in research we often have dozens of people furiously writing away until the last minute to fulfill the writing needs for grant deadlines (much like I am doing now....although I appear to be procrastinating writing this email). This creates a document versioning nightmare for the final editors. I am looking for a solution to this problem. While I realize that there is versioning support within OO, it doesn't seem to meet my needs very well (networked document, multiple users, granular checkout). I would like to see if there is any interest in adding (or changing) functionality to allow for a versioning document repository. It would work something along the lines of: 1. User retrieves document from repository. The document is readonly. 2. The user selects a block of the document, right clicks, and chooses "checkout". 3. The document repository notifies the other user's office clients that that section has been checked out, and blocks write access to that section. 4. Changes are made, and the text is checked back in (committed) or discarded (and corresponding unlocked on the other clients) 5. Repeat process. Some notes about this. Number 2, could be done as automatically checking out a paragraph or other logical unit at a time. Offline work should be allowed, with warnings to the user who works offline or on checked out code that they will be responsible for merging at checkin if they proceed. I've put more thougt into this than what I've listed, however this email isn't meant to be a proposal, but rather a point of discussion. If someone would like further information regarding either of these items, let me know. I am willing to contribute in anyway possible (including code). However, "free" time is somewhat limited. The second item above directly relates to current needs at my place of business and would therefor potentially be able to donate some of my work time to that part of the project and may consider doing some of this anyway. However, I don't have much (read any real other than tutorial) experience with developing code for OO and am looking for input to the above item and suggestions for how to implement it in OO. Thanks for taking the time to read this overly long winded email and equally long winded remark, Dustin Machi From nsilva-list@atari-source.com Thu Jul 10 18:08:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B8818F5CA for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:08:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00580-01 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:08:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aoi.atari-source.com (aoi.atari-source.com [66.92.233.11]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9067918F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nsilva-list (helo=localhost) by aoi.atari-source.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ae0e-0005T4-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:11:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" To: discuss@opengroupware.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I downloaded the source packages, but am not sure how they are to be built. I saw some dependency graph on the web site, but no instructions on how to build the individial items. Most don't have an autoconf script, and make fails, apparently due to invalid paths. I extracted all of the .gz files, the only one I built properly was the build system itself. Is there some overview of how to make everything co-operate together? I am planning to possibly try to integrate some features of this software with the recently released Qube sources if it is feasible. thanks, noah silva From zac@yoism.org Thu Jul 10 18:18:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A4018F5C7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01104-10 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yoism.org (dpvc-68-162-218-43.bos.east.verizon.net [68.162.218.43]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418118F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dpvc-68-162-218-43.bos.east.verizon.net ([68.162.218.43] helo=yoism.org) by yoism.org with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ae2Y-0004IG-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F0D923A.808@yoism.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:20:10 -0400 From: Isaac Kriegman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030704 Debian/1.4-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] open office collaboration Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've been collaborating with a bunch of people on an opensource book for a while now, and I've been considering my ideal application for the process. I'm wondering if such a thing exists or if anybody would be interested in creating it. It will be used primarily by non-technical people, and thus DocBook and tex, even html, is *way* to complicated. I've tried to get people to learn these thing, but for non-technical people the task is quite daunting, and the result is, if the projects depends on these tools it FAILS. The proper solution is to let people word process like they are used to word processing, in a word processor like OpenOffice Writer. The problem with OpenOffice Writer is integrating remote revision control, similar to cvs or subversion. Idealy there would be a plugin for open office which creates an extra menu. When you open a document that is under revision control, the menu appears, and under the menu are the standard items, such as, update and commit. The location of the repository is saved in the document. This makes contributing to the project as easy as downloading an OpenOffice Writer document from the web, opening it, editing and selecting commit from the drop down menu (presumably they would need to enter a username and password as well). Then of course we would need tools for diffing and dealing with conflicts. Some of those things already partially exist in OpenOffice with the local revision control that is built in. Perhaps those tools could be extended. I believe that a really easy to use tool along these lines would revolutionize book writing, and writing in general, in the way that open source software development has revolutionized software development. I've looked far and wide from something like this, but thus far have been unable to find anything. Does anybody like this idea. Does it make sense? Should I describe what I'm thinking about it more detail? - Zac From nsilva-list@atari-source.com Thu Jul 10 18:31:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AD918F5C7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03510-03 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:31:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aoi.atari-source.com (aoi.atari-source.com [66.92.233.11]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE3118F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:31:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nsilva-list (helo=localhost) by aoi.atari-source.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aeLz-0005ao-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:33:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" To: Isaac Kriegman Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] open office collaboration In-Reply-To: <3F0D923A.808@yoism.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I think this thread might be a tad bit off topic, but: You can do what you are thinking of today. Run subversion as a WebDav service, and run the Ximian OpenOffice.org branch that can save via Gnome-vfs (which works on Webdav). When they save a new copy, subversion will keep the old copy. -- noah silva On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Isaac Kriegman wrote: > > Hi, I've been collaborating with a bunch of people on an opensource book > for a while now, and I've been considering my ideal application for the > process. I'm wondering if such a thing exists or if anybody would be > interested in creating it. > > It will be used primarily by non-technical people, and thus DocBook and > tex, even html, is *way* to complicated. I've tried to get people to > learn these thing, but for non-technical people the task is quite > daunting, and the result is, if the projects depends on these tools it > FAILS. The proper solution is to let people word process like they are > used to word processing, in a word processor like OpenOffice Writer. > > The problem with OpenOffice Writer is integrating remote revision > control, similar to cvs or subversion. Idealy there would be a plugin > for open office which creates an extra menu. When you open a document > that is under revision control, the menu appears, and under the menu are > the standard items, such as, update and commit. The location of the > repository is saved in the document. This makes contributing to the > project as easy as downloading an OpenOffice Writer document from the > web, opening it, editing and selecting commit from the drop down menu > (presumably they would need to enter a username and password as well). > > Then of course we would need tools for diffing and dealing with > conflicts. Some of those things already partially exist in OpenOffice > with the local revision control that is built in. Perhaps those tools > could be extended. > > I believe that a really easy to use tool along these lines would > revolutionize book writing, and writing in general, in the way that open > source software development has revolutionized software development. > I've looked far and wide from something like this, but thus far have > been unable to find anything. > > Does anybody like this idea. Does it make sense? Should I describe > what I'm thinking about it more detail? > > - Zac > > > -- > OpenGroupware.org Discussion discuss@opengroupware.org > http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Jul 10 19:01:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C7A18F5DE for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10542-08 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:01:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9A818F5D9 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:01:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB07F75DA8 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:07:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 9E07C420A0 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:06:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id D707A420A2 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F0D9B83.50608@opengroupware.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:59:47 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'll write detailed build instructions later in the evening, probably available tomorrow morning (MET). regards, Helge Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded the source packages, but am not sure how they are to be > built. I saw some dependency graph on the web site, but no instructions > on how to build the individial items. Most don't have an autoconf script, > and make fails, apparently due to invalid paths. I extracted all of the > .gz files, the only one I built properly was the build system itself. Is > there some overview of how to make everything co-operate together? > > I am planning to possibly try to integrate some features of this software > with the recently released Qube sources if it is feasible. -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From nsilva-list@atari-source.com Thu Jul 10 20:02:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB48218F5C7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21043-03; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aoi.atari-source.com (aoi.atari-source.com [66.92.233.11]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309CC18F5C6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nsilva-list (helo=localhost) by aoi.atari-source.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19afmo-00069s-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:04:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" To: Helge Hess Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? In-Reply-To: <3F0D9B83.50608@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Thank you for your quick Response! Some additional points: Just as FYI, the reason I need to build it, instead of using .debs is because I am using Debian/PowerPC. I didn't check, but I assumed your .deb files were for x86. I am happy this project was open-sourced, of course, but I am curious as to -why- the decision was made. Also, if I can understand how the internationalization was done, I might have time to localize it to Japanese. thanks, noah silva On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Helge Hess wrote: > I'll write detailed build instructions later in the evening, probably > available tomorrow morning (MET). > > regards, > Helge > > Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded the source packages, but am not sure how they are to be > > built. I saw some dependency graph on the web site, but no instructions > > on how to build the individial items. Most don't have an autoconf script, > > and make fails, apparently due to invalid paths. I extracted all of the > > .gz files, the only one I built properly was the build system itself. Is > > there some overview of how to make everything co-operate together? > > > > I am planning to possibly try to integrate some features of this software > > with the recently released Qube sources if it is feasible. > -- > http://www.opengroupware.org/ > > -- > OpenGroupware.org Discussion discuss@opengroupware.org > http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Jul 10 20:39:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C8C18F5C7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28356-01 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:39:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638B418F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:39:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2562975EC6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:45:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <1057852896.4281.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1057852896.4281.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <251A91DA-B306-11D7-B330-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Couple of Items for thought Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:41:40 +0200 To: dmachi@vt.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Dustin, On Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003, at 18:01 Uhr, Dustin Machi wrote: > 1. I have a webservices based contact server that I would be interested > in donating/integrating with OO. We are not OO, we are OGo. Please do not mix up OpenGroupware.org and OpenOffice.org, while we intend to work together, we are separate projects. > I am unsure if > webservices is an approach you are considering for some of this > groupware. Definitely. Actually what you describe sound exactly like what the OGo contact module already does, so I wonder what additional value you provide. > 2. In addition to this contact service, I have interest in a > particular > feature set. I am not sure if this would be included in what others > call "groupware" but in this case I do nonetheless. I have the need to > establish a collaborative writing environment. Being involve in > research we often have dozens of people furiously writing away until > the > last minute to fulfill the writing needs for grant deadlines (much like > I am doing now....although I appear to be procrastinating writing this > email). This creates a document versioning nightmare for the final > editors. I am looking for a solution to this problem. While I realize > that there is versioning support within OO, it doesn't seem to meet my > needs very well (networked document, multiple users, granular > checkout). I would like to see if there is any interest in adding > (or changing) functionality to allow for a versioning document > repository. Yes, this is partly covered by the OGo document repository. But the functionality contained in it could be GREATLY expanded by directly working on the OOo XML format. We could have compound documents, we could have "intelligent" diffs, we could export to a website using OGo Publisher. So while we have no short term roadmap on that it definitely is what we consider office integration and what we would like to work on together with OOo and other OpenSource office projects. We need to focus first on getting the OGo project properly up and running. Then we are going to collect suggestions to publish some possibile areas for development and hopefully some contributors working on it. best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Jul 10 20:46:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCDE18F5D5 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:46:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28981-05 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:46:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AE518F5CA for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:46:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0926775C11; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:52:59 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1FF36504-B307-11D7-B330-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:48:41 +0200 To: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003, at 20:04 Uhr, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Just as FYI, the reason I need to build it, instead of using .debs is > because I am using Debian/PowerPC. I didn't check, but I assumed your > .deb files were for x86. Ah, interesting. Let us know how it turns out. We are currently porting OGo to the IBM iSeries platform, which also runs Linux on PowerPC. That didn't work out of the box, but the port should be completed next week. So if you encounter problems with va_arg structures, it might be worth waiting a bit longer instead of getting gray hair inside of GDB ;-) > I am happy this project was open-sourced, of course, but I am curious > as > to -why- the decision was made. There are several reasons which I cannot fully disclose ;-) One of course is marketing (which already was huge !). Whether the software is open source or not doesn't really affect our business since we always made the majority of our income from professional service, custom development, training - not from license fees. > Also, if I can understand how the internationalization was done, I > might > have time to localize it to Japanese. I would like to come back on that to you later. Japanese currently isn't as easy and needs some programming work as well. OGo uses Unicode internally but not in all places. best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From nsilva-list@atari-source.com Thu Jul 10 21:45:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8154718F5D9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05667-09; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aoi.atari-source.com (aoi.atari-source.com [66.92.233.11]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA42118F5CA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:45:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nsilva-list (helo=localhost) by aoi.atari-source.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ahNw-0006o2-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:47:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" To: Helge Hess Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? In-Reply-To: <1FF36504-B307-11D7-B330-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Helge Hess wrote: > On Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003, at 20:04 Uhr, Noah Silva [Mailing list] > wrote: > > > Just as FYI, the reason I need to build it, instead of using .debs is > > because I am using Debian/PowerPC. I didn't check, but I assumed your > > .deb files were for x86. > > Ah, interesting. Let us know how it turns out. We are currently porting > OGo to the IBM iSeries platform, which also runs Linux on PowerPC. That > didn't work out of the box, but the port should be completed next week. > So if you encounter problems with va_arg structures, it might be worth > waiting a bit longer instead of getting gray hair inside of GDB ;-) Maybe I should wait for your port to be done then! I wouldn't get to the point of tinkering with GDB, as C isn't my "Native" language. (I program in Pascal/Kylix/Delphi normally, and do a good deal of tinkering in SQL, etc., and PHP recently with messing around with the Sausalito sources). I hope when you are done with the iSeries, you will make PPC .deb files too ;) > > I am happy this project was open-sourced, of course, but I am curious > > as > > to -why- the decision was made. > > There are several reasons which I cannot fully disclose ;-) One of > course is marketing (which already was huge !). Whether the software is I see, so it isn't that the project has reached EOL or something. I hope Skyrix continues to do well from the consulting business. Some portions that are LGPL, you might want to consider making SISSL to allow 3rd parties to make branded releases, but without breaking basic compatibility. I was looking at the online demo, is the "Project" portion also open-sourced? My main interest was in the calendar backend for evolution, but it looks like I have to use Connector for that right now. > > Also, if I can understand how the internationalization was done, I > > might > > have time to localize it to Japanese. > > I would like to come back on that to you later. Japanese currently > isn't as easy and needs some programming work as well. OGo uses Unicode > internally but not in all places. Even if it is stored as "Ascii", as long as it is sent in the proper format (i.e. TELL the web-browser it is UTF8), it shouldn't matter much. We could work on Romanjii (ASCII-ized japanese) in the meantime. Again, thanks for your quick answers. -- noah silva From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Jul 10 23:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E120918F5C7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:10:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26331-06 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:10:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C7718F5C6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:10:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C1076078; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:17:45 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <59F51C28-B31B-11D7-B330-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Build Instructions? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:13:28 +0200 To: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003, at 21:47 Uhr, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Maybe I should wait for your port to be done then! I wouldn't get to > the > point of tinkering with GDB, as C isn't my "Native" language. (I > program > in Pascal/Kylix/Delphi normally, and do a good deal of tinkering in > SQL, > etc., and PHP recently with messing around with the Sausalito sources). > > I hope when you are done with the iSeries, you will make PPC .deb files > too ;) Well, I guess you are trying on a Mac ? It's not unlikely that Mac PPCs use a different ABI and therefore work out of the box. But I never tried on PPC Debian. We won't provide .deb packages for PPC, but maybe someone else can and wants to maintain them ? >> There are several reasons which I cannot fully disclose ;-) One of >> course is marketing (which already was huge !). Whether the software >> is > I see, so it isn't that the project has reached EOL or something. Certainly not ! While we are a pretty locally focused company (and therefore probably pretty unknown in other countries) we are certainly one of the leaders in Germany. This will only expand with going OpenSource, we are pretty confident in this. > I was looking at the online demo, is the "Project" portion also > open-sourced? Yes. > My main interest was in the calendar backend for evolution, > but it looks like I have to use Connector for that right now. Yes. This needs work, any contributors with Evolution programming knowledge ? ;-) > Even if it is stored as "Ascii", as long as it is sent in the proper > format (i.e. TELL the web-browser it is UTF8), it shouldn't matter > much. > We could work on Romanjii (ASCII-ized japanese) in the meantime. Well, I still think that it isn't that easy. But other (technical, Japanese) people should try out on that. I can't even check whether it works or not ;-) Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From evan@4-am.com Fri Jul 11 16:20:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47718F4FD for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21866-04 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sendmail.4-am.com (sendmail.4-am.com [65.120.145.3]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B8018F4FB for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [24.242.57.86] (helo=4-am.com) by sendmail.4-am.com with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ayns-0003N4-00 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:23:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0EC853.5000204@4-am.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:23:15 -0500 From: Evan Simpson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Re: Torrent - disregard please. Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Right *after* posting I went to the download page. D'oh! Sorry, Evan @ 4-am From evan@teamzonline.com Fri Jul 11 16:19:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A28318F4FD for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:19:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21782-06 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:19:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sendmail.4-am.com (sendmail.4-am.com [65.120.145.3]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D97418F4FB for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:19:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [24.242.57.86] (helo=teamzonline.com) by sendmail.4-am.com with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aymX-0003Mn-00 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:21:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0EC800.4090108@teamzonline.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:21:52 -0500 From: Evan Simpson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Torrent? Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Have you considered providing a BitTorrent download? I imagine that you have plenty of bandwidth, but especially in light of the changes you've needed to make during launch requiring re-download, a .torrent could really boost distribution. Cheers, Evan @ 4-am From bill.allison@bsw.co.uk Fri Jul 11 16:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0B218F4FD for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:34:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25630-02 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailhost.bsw.co.uk (unknown [217.205.94.131]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84DD718F4FB for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: bill.allison@bsw.co.uk Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:36:52 +0000 To: discuss@opengroupware.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310103775/310103805/310200971/ X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ZodeLink source Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Very excited about the source releases=2E Two questions: 1) Does ZodeLink work with Outlook 98? 2) Is ZodeLink being open-sourced or otherwise being made available free =20 of cost? Many thanks Bill Allison From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Jul 11 17:36:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FFD18F518 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:36:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17202-04 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:36:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5640A18F517 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:36:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645C176CFB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:43:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 24A3F420B7; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 6EE9C420AE; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F0ED929.4040205@opengroupware.org> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:35:05 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bill.allison@bsw.co.uk Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] ZodeLink source References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: bill.allison@bsw.co.uk wrote: > 1) Does ZodeLink work with Outlook 98? It's called ZideLook (the Outlook MAPI Storage Provider), but yes, it works with Outlook 98. > 2) Is ZodeLink being open-sourced or otherwise being made available free > of cost? Unfortunatly neither, see the FAQ: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/users/faq/index.html#native best regards, Helge Hess -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From daroussi@ece.fr Fri Jul 11 18:06:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C872E18F51C for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23077-02 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baptport.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (baptport.math-info.univ-paris5.fr [193.48.200.215]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E8718F51B for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by baptport.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 497C451A2F; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:09:00 +0200 (CEST) From: baptiste daroussin To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1057939738.1510.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 11 Jul 2003 18:08:59 +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] French community Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I wanted to get involved in OGo, I'm very excited about this project, I wanted to create a french community, to help. First of all, I wanted to know if any french community is on being created, and if it's the case, who can I contact. second, what are your need, restriction about the case ? thanks for this really great project. -- baptiste daroussin From jkdebian@gmx.net Fri Jul 11 21:19:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEF518F636 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:19:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18852-06 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DB2018F635 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 10255 invoked by uid 65534); 11 Jul 2003 19:22:51 -0000 Received: from mnch-d9ba495e.pool.mediaWays.net (EHLO klp733) (217.186.73.94) by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 21:22:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:23:51 +0200 From: Kang-Ling Weng X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Reply-To: Kang-Ling Weng X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <610690066.20030711212351@gmx.net> To: discuss@opengroupware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] hi Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everyone, I just subscribe for this maillinglist and want to say hello to everyone -- Best regards, Kang-Ling mailto:jkdebian@gmx.net From bjoern@opengroupware.org Sat Jul 12 02:06:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A71D18F636 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:06:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06311-02 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grobi.in.skyrix.com (unknown [212.21.74.42]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4303F18F637 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grobi.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id CE70C7BCBA for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:45:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F0F3E0B.7080602@opengroupware.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:45:31 +0200 From: Bjoern Stierand Organization: OpenGroupware.org (www.opengroupware.org) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030708 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] French community References: <1057939738.1510.6.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1057939738.1510.6.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, baptiste daroussin wrote: > Hi, > I wanted to get involved in OGo, I'm very excited about this project, I > wanted to create a french community, to help. Cool! > First of all, I wanted to know if any french community is on being > created, and if it's the case, who can I contact. There are no plans for such a community, yet. Anyway, it anybody is on this list who is interested, maybe you should contact Baptiste. If you need a mailinglist (users-fr or smth), just msg me and I'll setup one. > second, what are your need, restriction about the case ? Hrmm, good question - I think we can sort this out if there are enough people to form a french community :) Greets Bjoern -- http://www.opengroupware.org From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Sat Jul 12 02:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AB218F638; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:34:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07454-07; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:34:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACD118F635; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:34:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CAD7728B; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:42:13 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3F0F3E0B.7080602@opengroupware.org> References: <1057939738.1510.6.camel@localhost> <3F0F3E0B.7080602@opengroupware.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B64C6B2-B401-11D7-A135-00039340AF4A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bjoern Stierand From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] French community Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:38:07 +0200 To: discuss@opengroupware.org, users@opengroupware.org, developer@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, please, if you want to contribute something to OGo, like translations, documentation, marketing or development, write mail to contribute@opengroupware.org we are collecting all postings and form a "plan" in the next days. We have already received a lot of mails of people wanting to contribute - please give us some time to get back to you and properly organize the efforts. Thanks a lot, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Sat Jul 12 02:49:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE0818F63B for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17236-02 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:49:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFE718F638 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:49:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092327729A; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:56:33 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3F0D923A.808@yoism.org> References: <3F0D923A.808@yoism.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B542175-B403-11D7-A135-00039340AF4A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] open office collaboration Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:52:26 +0200 To: Isaac Kriegman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003, at 18:20 Uhr, Isaac Kriegman wrote: > The problem with OpenOffice Writer is integrating remote revision > control, similar to cvs or subversion. Idealy there would be a plugin > for open office which creates an extra menu. When you open a document > that is under revision control, the menu appears, and under the menu > are > the standard items, such as, update and commit. This is certainly something we would like to work on in the future, together with the OOo project. You can already access documents from the OGo versioned document storage using the WebDAV daemon, but the versioning process itself must currently be done using the web interface (releasing versions etc) since OOo doesn't provide support for that (AFAIK). > Then of course we would need tools for diffing and dealing with > conflicts. Yes. Actually those diffing tools can partly be implemented in the server given OOo's open XML file format and we would like to work on that. But yes, OOo needs to be extended in that direction. > Does anybody like this idea. Definitely. It goes exactly in the direction we want to go with office integration. But this aspect still needs quite a bit of work and effort. > Does it make sense? Well, at least I would like to have it ;-) > Should I describe what I'm thinking about it more detail? Well, I think I well understand what you want (controlling team repositories from the office environment). Actually Microsoft is providing such an integration of Office with it's SharePoint portal server. I think we can do better ;-) best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org http://www.opengroupware.org/ From bqqgernose@yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 15:07:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DB018F5BD for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:07:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05781-03 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:07:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web13203.mail.yahoo.com (web13203.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.188]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDE9018F5B8 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:07:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030712131109.71330.qmail@web13203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.92.155.118] by web13203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:11:09 PDT Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Knopp To: discuss@opengroupware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] How to log in via web interface Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I downloaded OpenGroupware and installed the debian packages with NO errors (yay!). I then followed the instructions to start OGo, and tried to log in as user opengroupware, but did not know the password (boo!) so I changed it and was able to log in and start OGo using the syntax in the FAQ. (yay!). It looks like the app is listening on port 20000, but when I try to login via http://127.0.0.1:20000 it will not connect. Following is the output from the console when I start up OGo and the resulting error. Thanks in advance for any help. Looking forward to checking this out... ~paul ******* opengroupware@wally:~$ WOApps/OpenGroupware.woa/ix86/linux-gnu/gnu-fd-nil/OpenGroupware -WOPort 20000 -WOHttpAllowHost localhost Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: SNS disabled. Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: Cannot find adaptor bundle 'RunSetup' Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: ERROR(-[LSOffice3 setupAdaptor]): could not instantiate adaptor for model lso3dev ! Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: Couldn't setup LSOffice3 (probably not yet configured) ! Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: |OpenGroupware| CTI Dialers: Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: |OpenGroupware| SKYRiX instance initialized .. Jul 12 14:58:25 OpenGroupware [1784]: |OpenGroupware| WOHttpAdaptor listening on address Jul 12 15:06:18 OpenGroupware [1784]: WOHttpAdaptor: ACCESS DENIED: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From bjoern@opengroupware.org Sat Jul 12 15:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3201B18F5BD for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:13:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08449-06 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grobi.in.skyrix.com (unknown [212.21.74.42]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904F218F5B8 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grobi.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id D301B7BCB8 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:22:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F100B9A.8040203@opengroupware.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:22:34 +0200 From: Bjoern Stierand Organization: OpenGroupware.org (www.opengroupware.org) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030708 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] How to log in via web interface References: <20030712131109.71330.qmail@web13203.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030712131109.71330.qmail@web13203.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Paul Knopp wrote: > I downloaded OpenGroupware and installed the debian > packages with NO errors (yay!). I then followed the > instructions to start OGo, and tried to log in as user > opengroupware, but did not know the password (boo!) so > I changed it and was able to log in and start OGo > using the syntax in the FAQ. (yay!). It looks like > the app is listening on port 20000, but when I try to > login via http://127.0.0.1:20000 it will not connect. > Following is the output from the console when I start > up OGo and the resulting error. > > Thanks in advance for any help. Looking forward to > checking this out... > Please have a look at the latest FAQ at http://mail.opengroupware.org/pipermail/users/2003-July/000120.html It should answer all your questions (hint: have a look at 'setting up LSAdaptor/LSModel' and 'using WOHttpAllowHost'. Greets Bjoern -- http://www.opengroupware.org From bjoern@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 14 00:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67C918F636; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21360-04; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grobi.in.skyrix.com (unknown [212.21.74.42]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086C018F604; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grobi.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id EDDA97B5B9; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F11E2C2.9070107@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:52:50 +0200 From: Bjoern Stierand Organization: OpenGroupware.org (www.opengroupware.org) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030708 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@opengroupware.org, discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Spanish and French mailinglists set up Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hiya, I just setup discuss-fr, users-fr, discuss-es and users-es (the last one doesn't show up on the overview page, but it's there, trust me :) for the spanish and french guys on here. Please support these lists (I can't do it, I don't speak spanish and my french is rather bad :)). Greets Bjoern -- http://www.opengroupware.org From ogo@toasterz.com Mon Jul 14 01:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A2F18F636; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04451-06; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:55:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fed1mtao04.cox.net (fed1mtao04.cox.net [68.6.19.241]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D88A18F604; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:55:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toasterz.com ([68.0.151.150]) by fed1mtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030713235900.SDYW5248.fed1mtao04.cox.net@toasterz.com>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:59:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3F11F584.6060804@toasterz.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:12:52 -0700 From: Kelley G User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@opengroupware.org, discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040804040604010706030005" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] simple perl ogo install script Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040804040604010706030005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all: here's a simple ogo install script. released under the LGPL. currently accepts two commands, install and remove. works for redhat9... not tested yet under any other distributions. maybe some of you will check it out and make additions post the diffs back. add to the todo if you want. enjoy, kelley graham http://www.toasterz.com --------------040804040604010706030005 Content-Type: text/plain; name="add_remove_ogo.pl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="add_remove_ogo.pl" #! /usr/bin/perl # This is a simple perl script for installing ogo from rpms. I use redhat9 and it works for my needs. Use at your own risk. If it breaks your system, sorry, but I'm not liable for any losses or damages, etc. whatsoever. # Copyright 2003 Kelley Graham http://www.toasterz.com # License: LGPL # Changelog ############################################################## # 13July2003 # -added comand line var and rudimentary sanity checks # 12July2003 # -initial cobbling together # -added libical before xml # -removed libxmlsaxdriver line since it is included in the xml package # Todo ################################################################### # # -add support for other distros (community help?) # -change spec files to create user ogo-whatever where needed # -when packages settle down, start one spec file for # 'monolithic' rpm install from rpm-all tarball if ( $ARGV[0] eq "install") { print "Adding Opengroupware.org Packages...\n\n"; $ACTION = "Uvh"; doit(); print "Remember to setup PostgresQL." exit; } if ( @ARGV[0] eq "remove") { print "Removing Opengroupware.org Packages...\n\n"; $ACTION = "e"; doit(); exit; } # If we get here then there's an improper command line var. Echo Usage and exit. print "\nUsage: add_remove_ogo.pl \n"; print "Pass the script \"install\" to install-upgrade Opengroupware.\n"; print "Pass the script \"remove\" to remove Opengroupwware.\n\n"; exit; sub doit() { `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-gstep-make*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-gstep-objc*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-libfoundation*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-js*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-libxml2*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-libical-*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-xml*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-core*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-gstep-db*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-gstep-db-postgresql72*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-sope*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-env*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-logic*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-docapi*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-database*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-libs*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-common*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-admin*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-app*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-contact*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-job*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-mailer*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-news*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-prefs*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-resource-en*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-webui-scheduler*.rpm`; `rpm -$ACTION opengroupware-theme-default-en*.rpm` } --------------040804040604010706030005-- From acs@lambdaux.com Mon Jul 14 10:37:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918EB18F607; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08692-07; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:37:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from atlas03.atlassolutions.net (atlas03.atlassolutions.net [213.229.188.143]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807F618F605; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:37:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.151.163]) by atlas03.atlasit.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.4) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:41:22 +0200 Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] Spanish and French mailinglists set up From: Alvaro del Castillo To: Bjoern Stierand Cc: users@opengroupware.org, discuss@opengroupware.org In-Reply-To: <3F11E2C2.9070107@opengroupware.org> References: <3F11E2C2.9070107@opengroupware.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Organization: LambdaUX Message-Id: <1058179163.646.7.camel@slash23.barrapunto.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 14 Jul 2003 12:39:23 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi guys! El lun, 14-07-2003 a las 00:52, Bjoern Stierand escribió: > Hiya, > > I just setup discuss-fr, users-fr, discuss-es and users-es > (the last one doesn't show up on the overview page, but it's > there, trust me :) for the spanish and french guys on here. Yes, the spanish user list doesn't shown in the general lists info page. Maybe is some variable in the mailman config. > > Please support these lists (I can't do it, I don't speak > spanish and my french is rather bad :)). I have subscribed to user-es/discuss-es and I plan to start to do some marketing effort for these 2 list. We will see the results. Cheers -- Alvaro > > Greets > > Bjoern > > -- > http://www.opengroupware.org From badmangabriel@lycos.co.uk Mon Jul 14 14:27:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDB018F657 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:27:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11004-04 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:27:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop.raw-talent.hopto.org (host81-130-231-199.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.130.231.199]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1EC18F656 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:27:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by laptop.raw-talent.hopto.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 03082303FB; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:33 +0100 (BST) From: Angel Gabriel To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-9.7x.1) Date: 14 Jul 2003 13:23:33 +0100 Message-Id: <1058185413.1940.24.camel@laptop.raw-talent.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Just installed all RPM's - What now Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just installed all the RPM's from that I extracted from the tar file, and now I'm stuck, I don't have web access at the moment, just my email.... which in case any of you are confused, lycos uses pop3, 'k! From daroussi@ece.fr Mon Jul 14 15:40:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7F518F584 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17718-10 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baptport.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (poitiers-1-a0-62-147-88-200.dial.proxad.net [62.147.88.200]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856F18F582 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by baptport.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6FB1494CF; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:43:35 +0200 (CEST) From: baptiste daroussin To: discuss@opengroupware.org In-Reply-To: <20030712175547.A12958@gandalf.ece.fr> References: <20030712175547.A12958@gandalf.ece.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1058190215.1510.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 14 Jul 2003 15:43:35 +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] website translation Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > I wanted to get involved in OGo, I'm very excited about this project, I > > wanted to create a french community, to help. > Cool! > The first thing I wanted to do is to transalte the website, but I'd tried the same process to get it by CVS than for OGo : cvs checkout www, (as written in the page but I can't get it :( ) so if someone can tell me how to get the website to be able to commit a french translation. For the moment, I'll try to translate the interface of OGo. > > First of all, I wanted to know if any french community is on being > > created, and if it's the case, who can I contact. > There are no plans for such a community, yet. Anyway, it anybody > is on this list who is interested, maybe you should contact Baptiste. > If you need a mailinglist (users-fr or smth), just msg me and I'll > setup one. > > > second, what are your need, restriction about the case ? > Hrmm, good question - I think we can sort this out if there are > enough people to form a french community :) > > Greets > > Bjoern > > -- > http://www.opengroupware.org > > -- > OpenGroupware.org Discussion discuss@opengroupware.org > http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- baptiste daroussin From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 14 15:46:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E310B18F595 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:46:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21749-07 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:46:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F9818F596 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:46:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13BD5D674 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:54:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 2F9DC420DF for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:53:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id E2C4042075 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:52:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F12B438.5090206@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:46:32 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: discuss@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] website translation References: <20030712175547.A12958@gandalf.ece.fr> <1058190215.1510.14.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1058190215.1510.14.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: baptiste daroussin wrote: > The first thing I wanted to do is to transalte the website, but I'd > tried the same process to get it by CVS than for OGo : > cvs checkout www, (as written in the page but I can't get it :( ) Please stay tuned. I will come back to people which offered translations soon with more detailed instructions. Thanks a lot, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From stanley.wong@rexcapital.com.hk Tue Jul 15 11:21:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7954E18F64F for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16214-05 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail1.rexcapital.com.hk (pc098.oskasia.com.hk [152.101.105.98]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FC518F5A3 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:21:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from stanley ([10.0.1.48]) by mail1.rexcapital.com.hk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h6F9BIx04871 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:11:18 +0800 Message-ID: <001501c34ab3$91dbac00$3001000a@rexcapital> From: "Stanley Wong" To: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:29:20 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C34AF6.9FE4FB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Defaults problem Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C34AF6.9FE4FB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I follows the step on website=20 http://www.opengroupware.org/en/install/postgresql.html to setup the postgresql dbogo, but found problem as follow Defaults: /lib/i686/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required = by /opt/sky rix/system/Libraries/ix86/linux-gnu/gnu-fd-nil/libFoundation_d.so.1.0) Defaults: /lib/i686/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required = by /opt/sky rix/system/Libraries/ix86/linux-gnu/gnu-fd-nil/libobjc_d.so.2) How can i fix it?? 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rix/system/Libraries/ix86/linux-gnu/gnu-fd-nil/libFoundation_= d.so.1.0)
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How can i fix = it??    (i m using=20 Redhat7.3, and the postgresql was installed with = rh)
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C34AF6.9FE4FB60-- From fabricio@fabricadeideias.com Tue Jul 15 17:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D98818F51A; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04985-05; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:39:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from scorsese.fabricadeideias.com (scorsese.fabricadeideias.com.br [200.197.121.104]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD5318F4F6; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:39:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fabricadeideias.com (saura.fabricadeideias.com.br [200.197.121.100]) by scorsese.fabricadeideias.com with esmtp; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:12:14 -0300 Received: from 192.168.109.63 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fabricio@fabricadeideias.com) by www.fabricadeideias.com.br with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:12:35 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <32988.192.168.109.63.1058281955.squirrel@www.fabricadeideias.com.br> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:12:35 -0300 (BRT) From: fabricio@fabricadeideias.com To: discuss@opengroupware.org, users@opengroupware.org X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Problems in setup Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm trying to install the OpenGroupWare in my Conectiva 8, I followed the tutorial of install in the oficial website. Everything was ok, but in "Setup DataBase" I had a problem. After of to execute "source $HOME/OpenGroupware.org.sh", the tutorial say to execute the command "Defaults write NSGlobalDomain..." but the result is: "Defaults: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found". My GLIBC is GLIBC_2.2.4, my question is: is necessary the GLIBC_2.3 version, or exist some way to install whith my version? thanks, Fabrício Carlos fabricio@fabricadeideias.com From ogo@toasterz.com Wed Jul 16 07:52:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC4318F5CA for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:52:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13150-09 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:52:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fed1mtao01.cox.net (fed1mtao01.cox.net [68.6.19.244]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E658C18F599 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toasterz.com ([68.0.151.150]) by fed1mtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030716055634.ZBTQ7643.fed1mtao01.cox.net@toasterz.com> for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:56:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F14E916.30704@toasterz.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:56:38 -0700 From: OGo Toasterz Admin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030809030200000402020009" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] updated install script 15July2003 Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030809030200000402020009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here's an updated version, with more useful features. Major changes, improvement and additions from Gustavo Chavez, thanks! - Include three missing rpms; - Substitute a system call for the backticks so that I can see the logs from the rpm call. - Use a single rpm call with a list of all rpms to include to speed it up a bit. - Implemented two options (-n for do nothing and -v for verbosity). I did these quickly... look over and test before you run on production machine. -added -f option to force rpm to install over existing packages -added better usage text. -added -a option to install all packages (postgres+Ogo) hope you find it helpful. more forthcoming. kelley graham http://www.toasterz.com --------------030809030200000402020009 Content-Type: text/plain; name="add_remove_ogo.pl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="add_remove_ogo.pl" #! /usr/bin/perl # This is a simple perl script for installing ogo from rpms. I use redhat9 and it works for my needs. Use at your own risk. If it breaks your system, sorry, but I'm not liable for any losses or damages, etc. whatsoever. # Copyright 2003 Kelley Graham http://www.toasterz.com # License: LGPL # Changelog ############################################################## # 15July2003 # -added postgres install option # -added force option # -incorporated Gustavo Chavez' many enhancements, Thanks!. # 13July2003 # -added comand line var and rudimentary sanity checks # 12July2003 # -initial cobbling together # -added libical before xml # -removed libxmlsaxdriver line since it is included in the xml package # Todo ################################################################### # # -add support for other distros (community help?) # -add run script at end off install that starts needed services and seets defaults # -add version check for postgresql, suggest upgrade if appropriate. # -add "output debug info to file" switch. # -add checks to wget the latest packages if not installed use warnings; use strict; use Getopt::Std; my $usage = "usage: $0 [-n] [-v] [-f] [-a] [install|remove] \n\nPass the script \"install\" to install-upgrade Opengroupware\nPass the script \"remove\" to remove Opengroupwware.\n\nOptions:\nTo install OGo \+ PostgresQL use the \"\-a\" switch. PostgresQL packages must be in directory.\nUse \"\-n\" to do nothing.\nUse \"\-v\" to get verbose debug output.\nUse \"\-f\" to force rpm to overwrite existing packages. (use with care) see man rpm.\n\n"; my %args; getopts('nvfa', \%args) or die $usage; my $action = shift or die $usage; my @order = qw( opengroupware-gstep-make* opengroupware-gstep-objc* opengroupware-libfoundation* opengroupware-js* opengroupware-libxml2* opengroupware-libical-* opengroupware-xml* opengroupware-core* opengroupware-gstep-db* opengroupware-gstep-db-postgresql72* opengroupware-sope* opengroupware-env* opengroupware-logic* opengroupware-docapi* opengroupware-database* opengroupware-webui-libs* opengroupware-webui-common* opengroupware-webui-admin* opengroupware-webui-app* opengroupware-webui-contact* opengroupware-webui-job* opengroupware-webui-mailer* opengroupware-webui-news* opengroupware-webui-prefs* opengroupware-webui-resource-en* opengroupware-webui-scheduler* opengroupware-webui-forms* opengroupware-webui-project* opengroupware-theme-default-en* ); my @pg_order = qw( postgresql-libs* postgresql-7* postgresql-server* postgresqql-tcl* postgresql-contrib* postgresql-devel* postgresql-docs* postgresql-pl* postgresql-python* postgresql-test* ); my @packages = map(glob("$_.i386.rpm"), @order); my @stems = map(/(opengroupware-.*)-[.\d]+-\w+\.i386\.rpm/ ? $1 : "NOMATCH_$_", @packages); if ($action eq "install") { my $vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "vh"; my $fopt = $args{f} ? "--force" : ""; my $pgopt = $args{a} ? "all" : ""; if ($pgopt eq "all" && !$args{n}) { my @pg_pkgs = map(glob("$_.i386.rpm"), @pg_order); my @pg_stems = map(/(postgresql-.*)-[.\d]+-\w+\.i386\.rpm/ ? $1 : "NOMATCH_$_", @pg_pkgs); my $pg_vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "vh"; my $pg_fopt = $args{f} ? "--force" : ""; print "\nInstalling PostgresQL...\n\n"; if (@pg_pkgs ne "") { my $pg_cmd = join(' ', "rpm -U$pg_vopts $pg_fopt", @pg_pkgs); print "$pg_cmd\n"; system($pg_cmd); } } print "\nAdding Opengroupware.org...\n\n"; my $cmd = join(' ', "rpm -U$vopts $fopt", @packages); print "$cmd\n"; exit 0 if $args{n}; my $code = system($cmd); exit $code; } if ($action eq "remove") { print "Removing Opengroupware.org...\n\n"; my $vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "v"; my $rm_cmd = join(' ', "rpm -e$vopts", reverse(@stems)); print "$rm_cmd\n"; exit 0 if $args{n}; exec($rm_cmd); } # If we get here then there's an improper command line var. Echo Usage and exit. print $usage; exit 0; --------------030809030200000402020009-- From ogo@toasterz.com Wed Jul 16 08:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD38018F5CA; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:02:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24755-01; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:02:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fed1mtao07.cox.net (fed1mtao07.cox.net [68.6.19.124]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228F318F599; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:02:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toasterz.com ([68.0.151.150]) by fed1mtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030716060646.YHPB12263.fed1mtao07.cox.net@toasterz.com>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 02:06:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F14EB7B.5090808@toasterz.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:06:51 -0700 From: OGo Toasterz Admin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@opengroupware.org, users@opengroupware.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080707090808050102000407" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] updated install script 15July2003 [typo corrected] Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080707090808050102000407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit typo corrected in postgresql package list. here's an updated version, with more useful features. Major changes, improvement and additions from Gustavo Chavez, thanks! - Include three missing rpms; - Substitute a system call for the backticks so that I can see the logs from the rpm call. - Use a single rpm call with a list of all rpms to include to speed it up a bit. - Implemented two options (-n for do nothing and -v for verbosity). I did these quickly... look over and test before you run on production machine. -added -f option to force rpm to install over existing packages -added better usage text. -added -a option to install all packages (postgres+Ogo) hope you find it helpful. more forthcoming. kelley graham http://www.toasterz.com --------------080707090808050102000407 Content-Type: text/plain; name="add_remove_ogo.pl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="add_remove_ogo.pl" #! /usr/bin/perl # This is a simple perl script for installing ogo from rpms. I use redhat9 and it works for my needs. Use at your own risk. If it breaks your system, sorry, but I'm not liable for any losses or damages, etc. whatsoever. # Copyright 2003 Kelley Graham http://www.toasterz.com # License: LGPL # Changelog ############################################################## # 15July2003 # -added postgres install option # -added force option # -incorporated Gustavo Chavez' many enhancements, Thanks!. # 13July2003 # -added comand line var and rudimentary sanity checks # 12July2003 # -initial cobbling together # -added libical before xml # -removed libxmlsaxdriver line since it is included in the xml package # Todo ################################################################### # # -add support for other distros (community help?) # -add run script at end off install that starts needed services and seets defaults # -add version check for postgresql, suggest upgrade if appropriate. # -add "output debug info to file" switch. # -add checks to wget the latest packages if not installed use warnings; use strict; use Getopt::Std; my $usage = "usage: $0 [-n] [-v] [-f] [-a] [install|remove] \n\nPass the script \"install\" to install-upgrade Opengroupware\nPass the script \"remove\" to remove Opengroupwware.\n\nOptions:\nTo install OGo \+ PostgresQL use the \"\-a\" switch. PostgresQL packages must be in directory.\nUse \"\-n\" to do nothing.\nUse \"\-v\" to get verbose debug output.\nUse \"\-f\" to force rpm to overwrite existing packages. (use with care) see man rpm.\n\n"; my %args; getopts('nvfa', \%args) or die $usage; my $action = shift or die $usage; my @order = qw( opengroupware-gstep-make* opengroupware-gstep-objc* opengroupware-libfoundation* opengroupware-js* opengroupware-libxml2* opengroupware-libical-* opengroupware-xml* opengroupware-core* opengroupware-gstep-db* opengroupware-gstep-db-postgresql72* opengroupware-sope* opengroupware-env* opengroupware-logic* opengroupware-docapi* opengroupware-database* opengroupware-webui-libs* opengroupware-webui-common* opengroupware-webui-admin* opengroupware-webui-app* opengroupware-webui-contact* opengroupware-webui-job* opengroupware-webui-mailer* opengroupware-webui-news* opengroupware-webui-prefs* opengroupware-webui-resource-en* opengroupware-webui-scheduler* opengroupware-webui-forms* opengroupware-webui-project* opengroupware-theme-default-en* ); my @pg_order = qw( postgresql-libs* postgresql-7* postgresql-server* postgresql-tcl* postgresql-contrib* postgresql-devel* postgresql-docs* postgresql-pl* postgresql-python* postgresql-test* ); my @packages = map(glob("$_.i386.rpm"), @order); my @stems = map(/(opengroupware-.*)-[.\d]+-\w+\.i386\.rpm/ ? $1 : "NOMATCH_$_", @packages); if ($action eq "install") { my $vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "vh"; my $fopt = $args{f} ? "--force" : ""; my $pgopt = $args{a} ? "all" : ""; if ($pgopt eq "all" && !$args{n}) { my @pg_pkgs = map(glob("$_.i386.rpm"), @pg_order); my @pg_stems = map(/(postgresql-.*)-[.\d]+-\w+\.i386\.rpm/ ? $1 : "NOMATCH_$_", @pg_pkgs); my $pg_vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "vh"; my $pg_fopt = $args{f} ? "--force" : ""; print "\nInstalling PostgresQL...\n\n"; if (@pg_pkgs ne "") { my $pg_cmd = join(' ', "rpm -U$pg_vopts $pg_fopt", @pg_pkgs); print "$pg_cmd\n"; system($pg_cmd); } } print "\nAdding Opengroupware.org...\n\n"; my $cmd = join(' ', "rpm -U$vopts $fopt", @packages); print "$cmd\n"; exit 0 if $args{n}; my $code = system($cmd); exit $code; } if ($action eq "remove") { print "Removing Opengroupware.org...\n\n"; my $vopts = $args{v} ? "vv" : "v"; my $rm_cmd = join(' ', "rpm -e$vopts", reverse(@stems)); print "$rm_cmd\n"; exit 0 if $args{n}; exec($rm_cmd); } # If we get here then there's an improper command line var. Echo Usage and exit. print $usage; exit 0; --------------080707090808050102000407-- From dw@megabit.net Wed Jul 16 13:46:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF2918F56A for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:46:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07815-09 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.megabit.net (mail.megabit.net [213.164.133.42]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54CC418F566 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 11336 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 11:51:31 -0000 Received: from karfire.megabit.net (HELO 75.megalan.net) (213.164.139.67) by mail.megabit.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 11:51:31 -0000 From: Daniel Weuthen To: discuss@opengroupware.org Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:55:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307161355.03431.dw@megabit.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] [Debian] ogo terminates after logout & init scripts Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: dw@megabit.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Group Are there any workarounds to the termination problem after a user logs out. The FAQ says that ogo can be used in a production environment. but how can that be if it terminates after a user logs out!? i used the the debian howto by Robert Hutton. the other thing is: how can i start ogo at system startup?? has anyone a solution -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / with kind regards Daniel Weuthen ------------------------------------------------------------------- in a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ------------------------------------------------------------------- Megabit Informationstechnik GmbH Karstr.25 41068 Moenchengladbach Tel: 02161/308980 mailto:info@megabit.net ftp://megabit.net Fax: 02161/3089818 mailto:support@megabit.net http://megabit.net ------------------------------------------------------------------- From eric@documentprocessing.com Wed Jul 16 16:14:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A6618F581 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:14:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12097-09 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:14:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.documentprocessing.com (unknown [65.247.99.140]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642A418F57E for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:14:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.0.141] (machine141 [10.1.0.141]) by localhost.documentprocessing.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6GE8Ft17351 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:08:17 -0400 From: Eric Adams To: discuss@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1058364880.19262.20.camel@mail2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 16 Jul 2003 10:14:40 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] RPM OpenGroupware.org.sh Issue Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Greetings, After following the instructions outlined on the website (installing RPMs in the proper order, installing postgres), I got to a point outlined on: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/install/postgresql.html Specifically, the line: source $HOME/OpenGroupware.org.sh This doesn't work because because there is no /opt/opengroupware.org/OpenGroupware.org.sh. There is not even a single shell script in that directory. What am I missing? Thanks, Eric Adams From mberry@agyinc.com Thu Jul 17 00:39:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7B018F581 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08915-06 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from agymail01.agyinc.com (unknown [64.95.112.83]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D974D18F56E for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:39:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 300mberry ([192.168.1.175]) by agymail01.agyinc.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6GMK9Z02095 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:20:11 -0700 From: "Michael Berry" To: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:44:28 -0700 Message-ID: <007f01c34beb$d2446000$af01a8c0@300mberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0080_01C34BB1.25E58800" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Discuss] createdb not found Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C34BB1.25E58800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, So, I'm following the "small HOWTO" but can't get very far: [root@AGYGROUP PostgreSQL]# createdb ogo bash: createdb: command not found Any insight would be great. Thanks everyone ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C34BB1.25E58800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

So, I’m following the “small HOWTO” = but can’t get very far:

 

 

[root@AGYGROUP PostgreSQL]# createdb = ogo

bash: createdb: command not found

 

 

Any insight would be great.

 

 

Thanks everyone

------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C34BB1.25E58800-- From mike@nachbaur.com Thu Jul 17 00:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3840C18F581 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:48:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11660-07 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:48:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dbdevel.sunwave.net (h64-141-16-15.sunwave.net [64.141.16.15]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386A118F56E for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:48:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dbdevel.sunwave.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42FE178008; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:53:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael A Nachbaur To: discuss@opengroupware.org, "Michael Berry" Subject: Re: [OGo-Discuss] createdb not found Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:53:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <007f01c34beb$d2446000$af01a8c0@300mberry> In-Reply-To: <007f01c34beb$d2446000$af01a8c0@300mberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307161553.39470.mike@nachbaur.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: discuss-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: discuss@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discuss@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday 16 July 2003 03:44 pm, Michael Berry wrote: > Hi, > > So, I'm following the "small HOWTO" but can't get very far: > > [root@AGYGROUP PostgreSQL]# createdb ogo > > bash: createdb: command not found > > Any insight would be great. The "createdb" command doesn't appear to be in your path. Depending on where you installed PostgreSQL, you may want to look there (unless it came installed with your operating system, whereby it should be somewhere in /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, or something like that). If you don't have createdb, then you can get around it by using the "psql" database shell directly (createdb is simply a shortcut for the following): % psql template1 template1=> CREATE DATABASE ogo; -- /* Michael A. Nachbaur * http://nachbaur.com/pgpkey.asc */ "I teleported home one night With Ron and Sid and Meg. Ron stole Meggie's heart away And I got Sidney's leg." From robert@synapticserver.com Thu Jul 17 00:56:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: discuss@opengroupware.org Received: from localh