From discuss@opengroupware.org Thu Oct 5 15:54:17 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Olivier Hallot) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:54:17 -0300 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] changing ACL's and Categories Message-ID: <45251C99.4000508@scinergy.com.br> Hi I am concerned by the recent addition on Ogo, namely the possibility to change categories and ACLS in a list of contacts/enterprises. I fear it will be too easy for evil/unprepared users to mess completely with the contacts and enterprises records. Contacts can disapear from other users saved searches or be dis-categorized.... Yep, actually anyone can do it, but so far that was record by record. Doing bulk commands on such sensitive information should be somehow restricted to a few users... -- Olivier Hallot Scinergy Consulting Tel (021) 8822-8812 Rio de Janeiro, Brasil http://www.scinergy.com.br From discuss@opengroupware.org Thu Oct 5 15:59:44 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Helge Hess) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:59:44 +0200 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] changing ACL's and Categories In-Reply-To: <45251C99.4000508@scinergy.com.br> References: <45251C99.4000508@scinergy.com.br> Message-ID: <85B52184-CD47-4855-B8EE-14B5BA724EAC@opengroupware.org> On Oct 5, 2006, at 16:54, Olivier Hallot wrote: > I am concerned by the recent addition on Ogo, namely the > possibility to > change categories and ACLS in a list of contacts/enterprises. > > I fear it will be too easy for evil/unprepared users to mess > completely > with the contacts and enterprises records. Contacts can disapear from > other users saved searches or be dis-categorized.... Yep, actually > anyone can do it, but so far that was record by record. > > Doing bulk commands on such sensitive information should be somehow > restricted to a few users... Can't you just removed write access to those records for untrusted users? Greets, Helge -- Helge Hess http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/helge/ From discuss@opengroupware.org Thu Oct 5 17:50:17 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Olivier Hallot) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:50:17 -0300 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] changing ACL's and Categories In-Reply-To: <85B52184-CD47-4855-B8EE-14B5BA724EAC@opengroupware.org> References: <45251C99.4000508@scinergy.com.br> <85B52184-CD47-4855-B8EE-14B5BA724EAC@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: <452537C9.406@scinergy.com.br> Helge Hess escreveu: > On Oct 5, 2006, at 16:54, Olivier Hallot wrote: > > Can't you just removed write access to those records for untrusted users? > > Greets, > Helge > --Helge Hess > http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/helge/ > No. For several reasons, especially related to the qualification and consequences of having an untrusted user in your company. Can at least that feature be disabled by a user-default, as in the Display features such as dock access, form-letter generation...? That can't be hard to implement. Just hide this screen to unauthorized. Can even be set in the template. Thank's -- Olivier Hallot Scinergy Consulting Tel (021) 8822-8812 Rio de Janeiro, Brasil http://www.scinergy.com.br From discuss@opengroupware.org Tue Oct 17 20:17:10 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Timothy Collett) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:17:10 -0400 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Delegating tasks to multiple users Message-ID: <947D8CCB-0622-4300-8089-A30CD4232C0B@mac.com> Greetings. I have set up OpenGroupware in my small company, and the few test users are very enthusiastic about it so far. There have been a few concerns, though. The primary one at the moment is that Tasks must be delegated either to a specific user or a specific group/team. Task management is one of the biggest needs here, and we have a lot of tasks we'd like to track that involve just a few people who don't comprise a specific Team on their own. Are there any plans to allow delegation of tasks to multiple specified users (or would it be possible to make such plans)? Thanks very much. Timothy Collett -- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides From discuss@opengroupware.org Tue Oct 17 21:12:36 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:12:36 -0400 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Delegating tasks to multiple users In-Reply-To: <947D8CCB-0622-4300-8089-A30CD4232C0B@mac.com> References: <947D8CCB-0622-4300-8089-A30CD4232C0B@mac.com> Message-ID: <1161115956.9520.32.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> > Greetings. > I have set up OpenGroupware in my small company, and the few test > users are very enthusiastic about it so far. > There have been a few concerns, though. The primary one at the > moment is that Tasks must be delegated either to a specific user or a > specific group/team. Have you taken a look at the assigned user feature? Assigned user links users to tasks via a special type of object link and is supplemental to traditional assignment. So you can have 1:M relationships and each user has an additional "assigned tasks" tab in their task list. Set JobPreferredExecutantsEnabled = YES in your NSGlobalDomain, and restart the Web UI to enable assigned user. > Task management is one of the biggest needs here, Same here. > and we have a lot of tasks we'd like to track that involve just > a few people who don't comprise a specific Team on their own. Are > there any plans to allow delegation of tasks to multiple specified > users (or would it be possible to make such plans)? From discuss@opengroupware.org Tue Oct 17 22:28:01 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Timothy Collett) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:28:01 -0400 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Delegating tasks to multiple users In-Reply-To: <1161115956.9520.32.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> References: <947D8CCB-0622-4300-8089-A30CD4232C0B@mac.com> <1161115956.9520.32.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> Message-ID: <46A702D3-6EF4-461A-851B-07304217461D@mac.com> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Have you taken a look at the assigned user feature? Assigned user > links > users to tasks via a special type of object link and is > supplemental to > traditional assignment. So you can have 1:M relationships and each > user > has an additional "assigned tasks" tab in their task list. > > Set JobPreferredExecutantsEnabled = YES in your NSGlobalDomain, and > restart the Web UI to enable assigned user. Ahh...that's definitely some of what we need there. Thank you! Is there a list somewhere of all the values that can be set in the Defaults? Also, we would very much like to be able to set reminders for tasks, preferably customizable ones. This is something that I believe I can tack on the outside, by simply writing a separate utility to read the task database and send out a reminder for every task that meets certain criteria, but it would be useful if it were built in... ...Should this be going to the "users" list? Thanks again. Timothy Collett -- "But what ... is it good for?" --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Oct 18 21:03:10 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:03:10 -0400 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] Delegating tasks to multiple users In-Reply-To: <46A702D3-6EF4-461A-851B-07304217461D@mac.com> References: <947D8CCB-0622-4300-8089-A30CD4232C0B@mac.com> <1161115956.9520.32.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> <46A702D3-6EF4-461A-851B-07304217461D@mac.com> Message-ID: <1161201790.5806.53.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> > ...Should this be going to the "users" list? Yes. From discuss@opengroupware.org Fri Oct 27 20:34:20 2006 From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:34:20 -0400 Subject: [OGo-Discuss] OGo WebSite [Was: Re: [OGo-Users] Opengroupware Configuration] In-Reply-To: <90F46FD2-5323-4203-A80D-8CD15B1E0238@opengroupware.org> References: <20061027074934.17096.qmail@web31904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1161955710.6863.49.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> <90F46FD2-5323-4203-A80D-8CD15B1E0238@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: <1161977661.29458.17.camel@aleph.whitemice.org> > > All the basic/required defaults are covered in the presentation linked > > to from the right side of the HOME PAGE. > Well, I must admit that the critique is mostly valid. True, but it certainly isn't so bad that it merits an explosion of profanity from someone who hasn't asked for help. > The website is quite outdated and needs an overhaul. Agree. > Having a link on the homepage > to your excellent presentation is great but no replacement for a > proper website ;-) I agree completely. > I have some plans/ideas to change that but I'm not sure yet when I'll > find the time to approach it. Finding an actually useable CMS (or > writing one ;-) is certainly part of the issue. Finding someone who > can do some good webdesign would be cool too. I know this has been discussed (beaten to death, possibly) in the past. Helge previously posted this requirement list ----------------------------------------------- Just to restate some of the requirements I mentioned: a) it should be possible to preserve the current page layout, not necessarily 1:1, but it should be close b) only accounts should be allowed to edit pages c) it should scale sufficiently well (millions of hits!), maybe this could be solved with Squid or something d) it should have something like user home pages like on docs Optional: e) it would be good if it would allow something like folders for organizing stuff (yes, I know this isn't necessarily Wiki) f) a change review process would be great g) protecting certain pages for modifications would be nice h) ability to use HTML for content would be nice ------------------------------------------------------ There are some extremely popular CMSs floating about such as Drupal that seem like they would work for me; lots of people are familiar with both administrating and *USING* them. It seems like most of them (at least Drupal, with which I am most familiar) meats to some degree most of the above; I don't most provide "e". Note that I'm not advocating or promoting Drupal; just tossing in my two cents about what I am familiar with. I'd love for OGo to make a more complete and sophisticated website. Looking into the history of this list it looks like someone was working on TWiki? Are they ("Mario") still here? > Anyway, please move this to discuss@ogo if interested in further > discussion. Ok. :)