From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 17:06:35 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:06:35 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
Message-ID: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Hi,
end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how old
its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt seem to
be easily maintainable.
Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website needs
a redesign.
To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a friend
interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial stuff in a
CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk about
the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss design
decisions, proposals, ....
To collect ideas prior, I'd suggest to use a page in the docs plone, or any
better idea?
Is there a way in the docs plone to collaborate on a single page like a wiki?
I think to collect ideas, the comment function should also be sufficient, but
a site where everybody could enter sth. would be not so cluttered up in the
end.
I'd ask everybody here to share its ideas about what a new ogo homepage should
look like, which features it shall contain, and the like, and either post it
here, or on the docs plone page (in case nobody comes up with sth. better
suite for the task). Or at that evening, to jump in into IRC #ogo channel
and join the discussion ther
regards
Sebastian
From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 17:37:26 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Chris h)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:37:26 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <200902231237.26863.chris123@magma.ca>
On Monday 23 February 2009 12:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> Hi,
>
> end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how
> old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt
> seem to be easily maintainable.
> Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> needs a redesign.
May I make a suggestion. Been down this road too many times. Do not collect
much information to start. Simply build a prototype with base user input and
then open that up to comment and discussion. Most efforts like this die in
the discussion phase. So pls, just do it and then through it out for
discussion as it badly needed. Thanks to you both for considering this task.
> To collect ideas prior, I'd suggest to use a page in the docs plone, or any
> better idea?
Just use the comments feature as installing a wiki is brutal on that version
of plone and requires shell access. The comment feature should suffice is you
separate out the components of website production on a couple of pages. ie:
new website design. website content, cms systems of choice, etc. Just use
each page as a wiki topic and the comments as wiki sub-comments. Should do
fine
Thanks again for taking on this task.,
/ch
From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 18:16:30 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:16:30 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <1235412990.4973.10.camel@linux-m3mt>
> end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how old
> its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt seem to
> be easily maintainable.
> Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website needs
> a redesign.
> To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a friend
> interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial stuff in a
> CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
I'm not so much interesting in whatever the backend in so long as it is
(a) stable and (b) easy to maintain. I don't know if we even need the
feature-set of a full CMS.
> He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk about
> the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
Wed is good for me. Time zone of course is an issue. :)
> I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss design
> decisions, proposals, ....
> To collect ideas prior, I'd suggest to use a page in the docs plone, or any
> better idea?
> Is there a way in the docs plone to collaborate on a single page like a wiki?
> I think to collect ideas, the comment function should also be sufficient, but
> a site where
I checked and it *appears* I can modify the permissions of pages.
> I'd ask everybody here to share its ideas about what a new ogo homepage should
> look like, which features it shall contain, and the like, and either post it
I'd vote for something simple like , biggest
deal to me is that it is easy to update.
> here, or on the docs plone page (in case nobody comes up with sth. better
> suite for the task). Or at that evening, to jump in into IRC #ogo channel
> and join the discussion ther
From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 18:23:14 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:23:14 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902231237.26863.chris123@magma.ca>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<200902231237.26863.chris123@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <1235413394.4973.16.camel@linux-m3mt>
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 12:37 -0500, Chris h wrote:
> > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how
> > old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt
> > seem to be easily maintainable.
> > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> > needs a redesign.
> May I make a suggestion. Been down this road too many times. Do not collect
> much information to start. Simply build a prototype with base user input and
> then open that up to comment and discussion. Most efforts like this die in
> the discussion phase. So pls, just do it and then through it out for
> discussion as it badly needed. Thanks to you both for considering this task.
I've no problem with this; a mock-up, however created, isn't a bad
idea. We have an advantage this time that the sub-project is spear
headed by someone who has been around awhile; my experience is that
people who ride in volunteering to help just as quickly ride out again
(usually they simple vanish). I've seen that many times on many
projects. Follow through by people who have gradually risen to
"prominence" is much higher.
> > To collect ideas prior, I'd suggest to use a page in the docs plone, or any
> > better idea?
> Just use the comments feature as installing a wiki is brutal on that version
> of plone and requires shell access. The comment feature should suffice is you
> separate out the components of website production on a couple of pages. ie:
> new website design. website content, cms systems of choice, etc. Just use
> each page as a wiki topic and the comments as wiki sub-comments. Should do
> fine
> Thanks again for taking on this task.,
Whatever method is selected works for me; personally I think list
discussion works fine and we can hash on IRC. I doubt anyone will ever
want to review our discussion on this topic.
From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 18:33:00 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Chris h)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:33:00 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <1235412990.4973.10.camel@linux-m3mt>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> <1235412990.4973.10.camel@linux-m3mt>
Message-ID: <200902231333.00389.chris123@magma.ca>
On Monday 23 February 2009 13:16:30 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> I'd vote for something simple like , biggest
> deal to me is that it is easy to update.
Im going to stay out of this discussion but just want to point out the system
that Im currently using as its so simple. All text files.
http://sphinx.pocoo.org/
Best of luck.
--
/ch
From discuss@opengroupware.org Mon Feb 23 22:10:45 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Helge Hess)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:10:45 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID:
Hi,
I don't have too much time right now, but a few thoughts (most I
mentioned in the past).
- there should be a mockup. do not invest too much work
before you know it will be accepted.
- personally I thought about doing the OGo site like the
SOPE/old-SOGo site (just use a styleshout template, use my
StaticCMS publisher).
- I haven't seen a FOSS CMS yet which I like :-/ I would
like to avoid the PHP hell if possible.
- I love tools which generate a static site. Maybe this
one: http://site.ringce.com/products/hyde/hyde.html ?
Preferences mostly. I probably wouldn't refuse some Typo3 or Joomla
setup, but those are certainly '-' points.
Be prepared that the work might be rejected, we won't accept something
just because it was done by some volunteer! Hence: *mockup*!!
Also consider who is going to maintain the website when its in place!
(Frank certainly won't admin a Joomla site!) I would like to avoid the
Plone 'situation' ;-/
I know, its a bit discouraging :-> We definitely need to improve the
website and help would be very welcome. But lets not get 'bloated'.
Thanks,
Helge
From discuss@opengroupware.org Tue Feb 24 06:21:22 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:21:22 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To:
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <200902240721.22271.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Hi,
On Monday 23 February 2009 23:10:45 Helge Hess wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't have too much time right now, but a few thoughts (most I
> mentioned in the past).
>
> - there should be a mockup. do not invest too much work
> before you know it will be accepted.
>
> - personally I thought about doing the OGo site like the
> SOPE/old-SOGo site (just use a styleshout template, use my
> StaticCMS publisher).
>
> - I haven't seen a FOSS CMS yet which I like :-/ I would
> like to avoid the PHP hell if possible.
>
> - I love tools which generate a static site. Maybe this
> one: http://site.ringce.com/products/hyde/hyde.html ?
>
> Preferences mostly. I probably wouldn't refuse some Typo3 or Joomla
> setup, but those are certainly '-' points.
> Be prepared that the work might be rejected, we won't accept something
> just because it was done by some volunteer! Hence: *mockup*!!
>
> Also consider who is going to maintain the website when its in place!
> (Frank certainly won't admin a Joomla site!) I would like to avoid the
> Plone 'situation' ;-/
>
>
> I know, its a bit discouraging :-> We definitely need to improve the
> website and help would be very welcome. But lets not get 'bloated'.
I got that point, make it as nice as possible but keep future maintenance as
simple as possible too. E.g. a website update should be as simple as a svn ci
command.
before implementing anything, we will propose some designs, layed out in gimp
or sth. like that, and try to stick to some CSS stylesheets.
Adam, when you have figured out, how to set permissions on plone so that a
group can edit a page, could you setup one, and post a link to it here, or
let me know, and I'll setup one.
cheers
Sebastian
>
> Thanks,
> Helge
From discuss@opengroupware.org Tue Feb 24 13:53:06 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:53:06 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902240721.22271.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<200902240721.22271.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <1235483586.5534.22.camel@linux-m3mt>
> > I don't have too much time right now, but a few thoughts (most I
> > mentioned in the past).
> > - there should be a mockup. do not invest too much work
> > before you know it will be accepted.
> > - personally I thought about doing the OGo site like the
> > SOPE/old-SOGo site (just use a styleshout template, use my
> > StaticCMS publisher).
> > - I haven't seen a FOSS CMS yet which I like :-/
Yea, I feel the same way. Actually I rather like Mojoportal
but that is like swatting a fly
with a bulldozer for most use-cases.
> > I would like to avoid the PHP hell if possible.
As the admin of a very large and complex LAIP site (Linux, Apache,
Informix/DB2, PHP) I can second the vote that the long-term maintenance
of the PHP component of of the LAxP stack is pretty darn gruesome. This
is why many (nearly all?) hosting providers still run antique versions
of PHP; their forward compatibility is pretty shaky. And PEAR/PECL can
get to be almost 10% as bad as Perl's CPAN [What only 10%? Everything
is relative: nothing is as bad as CPAN, I'd choose
Windows-For-Workgroups DLL hell over CPAN! In some language somewhere
CPAN must mean: Updating-Will-Break-Everything.]
Not that there aren't upsides to LAxP, but the easy-up-ness is paid for
later.
> > - I love tools which generate a static site. Maybe this
> > one: http://site.ringce.com/products/hyde/hyde.html ?
> > Preferences mostly. I probably wouldn't refuse some Typo3 or Joomla
> > setup, but those are certainly '-' points.
> > Be prepared that the work might be rejected, we won't accept something
> > just because it was done by some volunteer! Hence: *mockup*!!
> > Also consider who is going to maintain the website when its in place!
> > (Frank certainly won't admin a Joomla site!) I would like to avoid the
> > Plone 'situation' ;-/
> > I know, its a bit discouraging :-> We definitely need to improve the
> > website and help would be very welcome. But lets not get 'bloated'.
I can't image this being a site with more than a dozen or so pages.
With a handful of people who have perform modifications. If editing is
easy that is a plus since it makes it more likely to happen.
> I got that point, make it as nice as possible but keep future maintenance as
> simple as possible too. E.g. a website update should be as simple as a svn ci
> command.
> before implementing anything, we will propose some designs, layed out in gimp
> or sth. like that, and try to stick to some CSS stylesheets.
Excellent!
> Adam, when you have figured out, how to set permissions on plone so that a
> group can edit a page, could you setup one, and post a link to it here, or
> let me know, and I'll setup one.
Actually you can create a page if you want and then I can go in and edit
the permissions [I'm pretty sure].
From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 25 14:11:59 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:11:59 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <1235483586.5534.22.camel@linux-m3mt>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> <200902240721.22271.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> <1235483586.5534.22.camel@linux-m3mt>
Message-ID: <200902251511.59871.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Hi,
I created a page on the docs plone:
http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/buzzdee/OGoWebsite
to collect all the thoughts about the a new website design.
If I missed to add someone as manager or owner of the page, who wants to edit
there too, let me know your plone login name, and I'll add you there.
Or use the comment function at the bottom of the page.
Sebastian
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 02:53:06 pm Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > I don't have too much time right now, but a few thoughts (most I
> > > mentioned in the past).
> > > - there should be a mockup. do not invest too much work
> > > before you know it will be accepted.
> > > - personally I thought about doing the OGo site like the
> > > SOPE/old-SOGo site (just use a styleshout template, use my
> > > StaticCMS publisher).
> > > - I haven't seen a FOSS CMS yet which I like :-/
>
> Yea, I feel the same way. Actually I rather like Mojoportal
> but that is like swatting a fly
> with a bulldozer for most use-cases.
>
> > > I would like to avoid the PHP hell if possible.
>
> As the admin of a very large and complex LAIP site (Linux, Apache,
> Informix/DB2, PHP) I can second the vote that the long-term maintenance
> of the PHP component of of the LAxP stack is pretty darn gruesome. This
> is why many (nearly all?) hosting providers still run antique versions
> of PHP; their forward compatibility is pretty shaky. And PEAR/PECL can
> get to be almost 10% as bad as Perl's CPAN [What only 10%? Everything
> is relative: nothing is as bad as CPAN, I'd choose
> Windows-For-Workgroups DLL hell over CPAN! In some language somewhere
> CPAN must mean: Updating-Will-Break-Everything.]
>
> Not that there aren't upsides to LAxP, but the easy-up-ness is paid for
> later.
>
> > > - I love tools which generate a static site. Maybe this
> > > one: http://site.ringce.com/products/hyde/hyde.html ?
> > > Preferences mostly. I probably wouldn't refuse some Typo3 or Joomla
> > > setup, but those are certainly '-' points.
> > > Be prepared that the work might be rejected, we won't accept something
> > > just because it was done by some volunteer! Hence: *mockup*!!
> > > Also consider who is going to maintain the website when its in place!
> > > (Frank certainly won't admin a Joomla site!) I would like to avoid the
> > > Plone 'situation' ;-/
> > > I know, its a bit discouraging :-> We definitely need to improve the
> > > website and help would be very welcome. But lets not get 'bloated'.
>
> I can't image this being a site with more than a dozen or so pages.
> With a handful of people who have perform modifications. If editing is
> easy that is a plus since it makes it more likely to happen.
>
> > I got that point, make it as nice as possible but keep future maintenance
> > as simple as possible too. E.g. a website update should be as simple as a
> > svn ci command.
> > before implementing anything, we will propose some designs, layed out in
> > gimp or sth. like that, and try to stick to some CSS stylesheets.
>
> Excellent!
>
> > Adam, when you have figured out, how to set permissions on plone so that
> > a group can edit a page, could you setup one, and post a link to it here,
> > or let me know, and I'll setup one.
>
> Actually you can create a page if you want and then I can go in and edit
> the permissions [I'm pretty sure].
From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 25 19:07:44 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:07:44 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <200902252007.44886.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> Hi,
>
> end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how
> old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt
> seem to be easily maintainable.
> Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> needs a redesign.
>
> To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a
> friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial stuff
> in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk
> about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
>
> I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss design
> decisions, proposals, ....
>
forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday starting
at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
>
>
> regards
> Sebastian
From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 25 19:09:13 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:09:13 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902252007.44886.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<200902252007.44886.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <1235588953.5530.2.camel@linux-m3mt>
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:07 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > Hi,
> > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and how
> > old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and doesnt
> > seem to be easily maintainable.
> > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> > needs a redesign.
> > To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a
> > friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial stuff
> > in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> > He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk
> > about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
> > I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss design
> > decisions, proposals, ....
> forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday starting
> at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
19:00 GMT?
From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 25 19:17:54 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:17:54 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <1235588953.5530.2.camel@linux-m3mt>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> <200902252007.44886.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> <1235588953.5530.2.camel@linux-m3mt>
Message-ID: <200902252017.54719.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:09:13 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:07 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and
> > > how old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and
> > > doesnt seem to be easily maintainable.
> > > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> > > needs a redesign.
> > > To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a
> > > friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial
> > > stuff in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> > > He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk
> > > about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
> > > I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss
> > > design decisions, proposals, ....
> >
> > forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday
> > starting at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
>
> 19:00 GMT?
Central European Time, so GMT + 1 hour.
Sebastian
From discuss@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 25 19:25:33 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:25:33 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902252017.54719.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<200902252007.44886.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<1235588953.5530.2.camel@linux-m3mt>
<200902252017.54719.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <1235589933.5530.5.camel@linux-m3mt>
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:17 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:09:13 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:07 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website, and
> > > > how old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice looking and
> > > > doesnt seem to be easily maintainable.
> > > > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the website
> > > > needs a redesign.
> > > > To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I got a
> > > > friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the initial
> > > > stuff in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> > > > He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to talk
> > > > about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let you know.
> > > > I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we could discuss
> > > > design decisions, proposals, ....
> > > forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday
> > > starting at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
> > 19:00 GMT?
> Central European Time, so GMT + 1 hour.
01:00 EST (Friday). I love round planets! :)
From discuss@opengroupware.org Thu Feb 26 06:30:41 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Sebastian Reitenbach)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:30:41 +0100
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <1235589933.5530.5.camel@linux-m3mt>
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On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:25:33 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:17 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:09:13 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:07 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > > On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website,
> > > > > and how old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice
> > > > > looking and doesnt seem to be easily maintainable.
> > > > > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the
> > > > > website needs a redesign.
> > > > > To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I
> > > > > got a friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the
> > > > > initial stuff in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> > > > > He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to
> > > > > talk about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let
> > > > > you know. I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we
> > > > > could discuss design decisions, proposals, ....
> > > >
> > > > forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday
> > > > starting at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
> > >
> > > 19:00 GMT?
> >
> > Central European Time, so GMT + 1 hour.
>
> 01:00 EST (Friday). I love round planets! :)
I thought 19:00 CET means sth. like lunch time at your place?
However, I'll try to be there early
Sebastian
From discuss@opengroupware.org Thu Feb 26 14:16:31 2009
From: discuss@opengroupware.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:16:31 -0500
Subject: [OGo-Discuss] ogo website redesign
In-Reply-To: <200902260730.42040.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
References: <200902231806.35376.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<200902252017.54719.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
<1235589933.5530.5.camel@linux-m3mt>
<200902260730.42040.sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de>
Message-ID: <1235657791.6554.0.camel@linux-m3mt>
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 07:30 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:25:33 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:17 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 25 February 2009 20:09:13 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:07 +0100, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > > > On Monday 23 February 2009 18:06:35 Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > end of last week, I and Adam were talking about the ogo website,
> > > > > > and how old its contents is, and that it is just not very nice
> > > > > > looking and doesnt seem to be easily maintainable.
> > > > > > Nothing new, the conclusion was, as also some times before, the
> > > > > > website needs a redesign.
> > > > > > To not as before, forget about the topic some short time later, I
> > > > > > got a friend interested, to actually design sth. new, and setup the
> > > > > > initial stuff in a CMS, probably joomla. How does that sound?
> > > > > > He wants to come along at my place one evening (MET) this week, to
> > > > > > talk about the design of the site. When I know which day, I'll let
> > > > > > you know. I'll then be in IRC, freenode, #ogo channel, where we
> > > > > > could discuss design decisions, proposals, ....
> > > > > forgot to mention in the other mail, this will be tomorrow, Thursday
> > > > > starting at about 19:00 o'clock 7pm.
> > > > 19:00 GMT?
> > > Central European Time, so GMT + 1 hour.
> > 01:00 EST (Friday). I love round planets! :)
> I thought 19:00 CET means sth. like lunch time at your place?
> However, I'll try to be there early
Your correct, I'm wrong. I went the wrong way. Doh! Your earlier than
me, not later. :)