From bjoern@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 14 11:59:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C7B18F648 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21606-04 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F290418F647 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:59:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grobi.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6F47A70B for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:08:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grobi.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 05F287B5B9 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F128147.7040709@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:09:11 +0200 From: Bjoern Stierand Organization: OpenGroupware.org (www.opengroupware.org) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030708 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Administrativa Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Please ignore this message Bjoern -- http://www.opengroupware.org From ringods@yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 16 19:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5586318F581 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:58:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08083-02 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web10705.mail.yahoo.com (web10705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.213]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 042E918F56E for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030716180324.66452.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.239.163.66] by web10705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:03:24 BST Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:03:24 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ringo=20De=20Smet?= To: MacOS X OpenGroupWare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Source tarball complete? Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I just retrieved the source tarball from the website and I wanted to build the Logic module using the SxLogic ProjectBuilder project file. The project file complains the following files can't be found, and they are not on my disk: Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/LSFoundation/License.h Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/LSFoundation/LicenseManager.h Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/LSFoundation/SkyQuery.h Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/SkyDocumentManagerImp.h Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/License.m Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/LicenseManager.m Missing file or directory: /Users/ringo/Desktop/OpenGroupWare/sources-all/Logic/LSFoundation/LSFoundation/common.h Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/SkyDocumentManager+JS.m Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/SkyDocumentManager.m Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/SkyQuery.m Is the source tarball complete? Ringo ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Wed Jul 16 20:26:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B0918F606 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13110-10 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:26:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9118F604 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:26:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72992CE567 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) In-Reply-To: <20030716180324.66452.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030716180324.66452.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Source tarball complete? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:31:06 +0200 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2003, at 20:03 Uhr, Ringo De Smet wrote: > I just retrieved the source tarball from the website and I wanted to > build the Logic module using the SxLogic ProjectBuilder project file. > The project file complains the following files can't be found, and they > are not on my disk: Yes, the pbx projects aren't yet updated to OGo, they still are made for the SKYRIX source tree. > Missing file or directory: LSFoundation/LSFoundation/License.h Obviously we don't need a license manager in OGo anymore, so we removed it ;-) > Is the source tarball complete? Yes, but the PBX projects are very likely not up to date and I really wonder whether we shouldn't use GNUstep-Make on MacOSX as well, since working with multiple users on a PBX is a mess (eg no diffs). Nice to know that someone looks at MacOSX :-) best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From ringods@yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 16 21:59:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB57F18F5AC for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06994-04 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web10701.mail.yahoo.com (web10701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.209]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C47918F56E for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:59:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030716200435.33907.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.239.163.66] by web10701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:04:35 BST Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:04:35 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ringo=20De=20Smet?= Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Source tarball complete? To: macosx@opengroupware.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --- Helge Hess wrote: > Yes, but the PBX projects are very likely not up to date and I > really wonder whether we shouldn't use GNUstep-Make on MacOSX as > well, since working with multiple users on a PBX is a mess (eg no > diffs). How is GNUstep-Make different from GNU make? Pointers? > Nice to know that someone looks at MacOSX :-) OpenGroupWare attracted me since it is written in Objective-C! I am new to MacOS X development and I'm thinking in writing some Objective-C code to get experience, so OGo is a good case! I'm a SmallTalk/Java programmer, so Objective-C still gives me enough of OO compared to C/C++ while being able to call any native C/C++ API around... Ringo ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From ringods@yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 16 22:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFFC18F59F for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:27:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07102-08 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web10705.mail.yahoo.com (web10705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.213]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D6A918F581 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030716203152.94318.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.239.163.66] by web10705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:31:52 BST Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:31:52 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ringo=20De=20Smet?= To: MacOS X OpenGroupWare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Builds: Unix style libraries or MacOS X frameworks? Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, The current build files seem to generate unix style libraries in the typical Unix locations like /usr/local/include/libxml2, etc. For MacOS X, what should we build? Unix style libraries or more intelligent MacOS X frameworks? Ringo ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Wed Jul 16 22:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF0F18F581 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:48:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13694-09 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:48:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84EC18F56E for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:48:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AE5CE7BA for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) In-Reply-To: <20030716200435.33907.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030716200435.33907.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8E73BD85-B7CF-11D7-9561-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Source tarball complete? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0200 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2003, at 22:04 Uhr, Ringo De Smet wrote: > How is GNUstep-Make different from GNU make? Pointers? GNUstep make is a makefile packages based upon GNU make. For an introduction see the links in the Developer/Resources section. Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Wed Jul 16 22:50:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B7118F59F for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19220-04 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A91C18F581 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77605CE6B5 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:54:51 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) In-Reply-To: <20030716203152.94318.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030716203152.94318.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Builds: Unix style libraries or MacOS X frameworks? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:54:51 +0200 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2003, at 22:31 Uhr, Ringo De Smet wrote: > The current build files seem to generate unix style libraries in the > typical Unix locations like /usr/local/include/libxml2, etc. For MacOS > X, what should we build? Unix style libraries or more intelligent MacOS > X frameworks? All the ThirdParty libraries come with PBX which build frameworks. Of course we should use frameworks on OSX. best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From fvallon@fr.alcove.com Thu Jul 17 22:21:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BE218F679; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29794-07; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.alcove-fr (unknown [81.80.245.157]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8633B18F647; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:21:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vitel.alcove-fr ([10.16.10.8]) by smtp.alcove-fr with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19dFKR-0006VL-00; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:26:15 +0200 Received: from fvallon by vitel.alcove-fr with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19dFKP-0004gr-00; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:26:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:26:13 +0200 From: Fabien VALLON To: developer@opengroupware.org Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org, gnustep-port@opengroupware.org Message-ID: <20030717202613.GA17948@vitel.alcove-fr> References: <20030717122549.62994.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> <3F16AF97.8010702@opengroupware.org> <20030717193958.GA17822@vitel.alcove-fr> <01624AD8-B891-11D7-8344-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <01624AD8-B891-11D7-8344-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux/2.4.20-station+usbdev (i686) X-Uptime: 22:05:59 up 30 days, 7:39, 14 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Helge Hess (helge.hess@opengroupware.org) wrote: > On Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003, at 21:39 Uhr, Fabien VALLON wrote: > >>Excellent :-) I hope more people (znek!) join in and can actually > >>start > >>to get something going regarding the OSX port. > >>Fabien said he might help on that, too. > >> > >>I can help on specific problems, but lets talk about that at > >>macosx@ogo. > > > >why did you separate MOSX (Cocoa) & GNUstep port ? > >It should be quite the same .... > > Hm. I'm not sure. I think Cocoa is quite different to GNUstep, depends > on how we intend to do it, eg PBX or gnustep-make on Cocoa (I would now > prefer the latter). Is there a problem using gnustep-make on OSX (Nicola ?) I think MOSX could use it :) ( who says "Embrace & Extends" ;-) I'm talking about code. Do you plan separate cvs tree ? > And the target audience usually is also quite different, little OSX > people knowing GNUstep very well and the reverse as well. Well GNUstep/Foundation & Cocoa/Foundation are quite the same ... > Anyway, feel free to do crossposts ;-) done :) Fabien -- Fabien VALLON - fabien.vallon@fr.alcove.com Ingénieur Informatique Libre - Alcôve - http://www.alcove.com GNUstep - http://www.gnustep.org - From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Jul 18 09:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8C618F57E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16718-02; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EFE18F545; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1804DCE0A8; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:09:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id BAD3C42139; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id D7EE1FA9B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:11:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F179BA8.8080005@opengroupware.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:03:04 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Cc: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org References: <20030717122549.62994.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> <3F16AF97.8010702@opengroupware.org> <20030717193958.GA17822@vitel.alcove-fr> <01624AD8-B891-11D7-8344-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> <20030717202613.GA17948@vitel.alcove-fr> In-Reply-To: <20030717202613.GA17948@vitel.alcove-fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Cocoa Porting, was: Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I took out developer@, since this is a macosx/gnustep-port issue. Fabien VALLON wrote: > Is there a problem using gnustep-make on OSX (Nicola ?) I don't think that there is a general problem. I invited Nicola to join the list, we'll see whether he finds time ;-) > I think MOSX could use it :) Yes, but it might be complicate to setup since the developer needs to fiddle around with all those environment sourcing which is a bit difficult in Finder. And the build-results should definitely be independend from GNUstep, that is, the build process should create frameworks and bundles usable without the GNUstep environment. Nicola has shown that this can work with Renaissance. > I'm talking about code. > Do you plan separate cvs tree ? Definitely not. A single codebase should work everywhere. >>And the target audience usually is also quite different, little OSX >>people knowing GNUstep very well and the reverse as well. > > Well GNUstep/Foundation & Cocoa/Foundation are quite the same ... Like libFoundation. GNUstep-base differs as much from libFoundation as Cocoa Foundation does. One concrete example is porting the file-descriptor handling in NSRunLoop, which isn't part of ObjC Cocoa, but both, libFoundation and gstep-base provide that. So we should use exactly that on gstep-base and find a good workaround for Cocoa (we currently use a hack there which uses NSFileHandle but seems to work fine). I think on Cocoa we might fix that by using CFRunLoop instead of NSRunLoop. Anyway, people should just get started ;-) regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@skyrix.com Fri Jul 18 10:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554C418F5EB; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11677-02; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF6418F57E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9075722C; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:43:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 9A7FB4213F; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:46:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.com (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 2E7C7D3F5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F17B1CE.3020303@skyrix.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:37:34 +0200 From: Helge Hess Organization: http://www.skyrix.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: developer , gnustep-port@opengroupware.org, macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Patches Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, please send any patches you want to have applied to patches@opengroupware.org. We are going to review/edit, test a bit and commit if everything looks fine. Thanks a lot, Helge -- __________________________________________________________________ Helge Hess Email: helge.hess@skyrix.com SKYRIX Software AG Tel: +49-391-6623-0 Universitaetsplatz 12 Fax: +49-391-6623-599 39104 Magdeburg, Germany Internet: http://www.skyrix.com __________________________________________________________________ Exchange your Exchange http://www.opengroupware.org/ __________________________________________________________________ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Jul 18 14:20:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E1E18F6AC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:20:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24519-05; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0218F57B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:20:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB48CF8C2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:25:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 7173D42149; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 52FF84212D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F17E5D6.1090209@opengroupware.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:19:34 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org References: <3F17B1CE.3020303@skyrix.com> <3F17D845.7040202@opengroupware.org> <20030718121144.GK10720@debian> In-Reply-To: <20030718121144.GK10720@debian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-GNUstep-Port] Re: Patches Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Further: -#import +#include I won't check that in, since it breaks Cocoa. I know that #import will be removed from gcc, but I'm not going to replace the Foundation includes for #import _now_, we can take how to deal with the issue later. Any other #import (imports which do not include Foundation, Cocoa or Appkit), should be replaced with #include of course. regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From nicola@brainstorm.co.uk Fri Jul 18 14:40:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF14A18F6AC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:40:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28978-07; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:40:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.brainstorm.co.uk (smtp.brainstorm.co.uk [217.169.5.196]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE0D18F57B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:40:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nicola.brainstorm.co.uk (IDENT:wqZ4JLOSl27cLTl2IPqiv35IS651r3N1@nicola.brainstorm.co.uk [192.168.4.138]) by mail.brainstorm.co.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6ICjeO00648; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:45:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:02 +0100 (BST) From: Nicola Pero To: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org Cc: developer@opengroupware.org, In-Reply-To: <20030717202613.GA17948@vitel.alcove-fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-GNUstep-Port] Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > >>Excellent :-) I hope more people (znek!) join in and can actually > > >>start > > >>to get something going regarding the OSX port. > > >>Fabien said he might help on that, too. > > >> > > >>I can help on specific problems, but lets talk about that at > > >>macosx@ogo. > > > > > >why did you separate MOSX (Cocoa) & GNUstep port ? > > >It should be quite the same .... > > > > Hm. I'm not sure. I think Cocoa is quite different to GNUstep, depends > > on how we intend to do it, eg PBX or gnustep-make on Cocoa (I would now > > prefer the latter). > > Is there a problem using gnustep-make on OSX (Nicola ?) > I think MOSX could use it :) Yes. I don't think there is anything wrong with using PBX, but using gnustep-make should be very easy, and be cross-platform. You can check Renaissance. We can probably improve on the framework vs library support. From nicola@brainstorm.co.uk Fri Jul 18 14:49:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2699B18F6E4; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00853-01; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:49:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.brainstorm.co.uk (smtp.brainstorm.co.uk [217.169.5.196]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203A18F6AC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:49:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nicola.brainstorm.co.uk (IDENT:xrHPppamRfpjq5D29spIQnguLx+bwO+j@nicola.brainstorm.co.uk [192.168.4.138]) by mail.brainstorm.co.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6ICtIO01475; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:55:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:59:40 +0100 (BST) From: Nicola Pero To: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org In-Reply-To: <3F179BA8.8080005@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-GNUstep-Port] Cocoa Porting, was: Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Yes, but it might be complicate to setup since the developer needs to > fiddle around with all those environment sourcing which is a bit > difficult in Finder. > And the build-results should definitely be independend from GNUstep, > that is, the build process should create frameworks and bundles usable > without the GNUstep environment. Yes - I agree. gnustep-make should only be required when building. But for building, it works nicely for me, and it's quite easy to do. > Nicola has shown that this can work with Renaissance. Yes. It works nicely for me. Much more nicely than having to support PBX files, which would be difficult for me since I'm almost always on a linux box (left my Apple in Italy, so I rarely touch it now), and PBX files are inherently difficult to edit by hand. With Renaissance I can change the makefiles in linux, and be reasonably confident that if it compiles on linux, the result will build according to the new makefiles on Apple as well. If you attempt this route, please get/use the latest gnustep-make from CVS, and please contribute back to the main gnustep-make all changes and enhancements you do. Sharing is the root of success. :-) From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Jul 18 15:11:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9FF18F6EA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:11:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03594-02; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:11:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E727918F6AC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:11:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B85708E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:17:33 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2A3362E6-B922-11D7-B026-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:17:21 +0200 To: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-GNUstep-Port] Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Freitag, 18. Juli 2003, at 14:50 Uhr, Nicola Pero wrote: >> Is there a problem using gnustep-make on OSX (Nicola ?) >> I think MOSX could use it :) > > Yes. I don't think there is anything wrong with using PBX, but using > gnustep-make should be very easy, and be cross-platform. You can check > Renaissance. Problem is, that compilation for PBX users isn't that easy. We would need at least detailed instructions on how to setup the environment. Or we write some "make" wrapper (maybe gsmake) which sources GNUstep.sh prior forking make. Then we have the Xcode issue, not sure whether it will still support legacy targets. But I agree, we should start out using gstep-make and can add "proper" PBX files later. The PBX projects could support both, GNUstep make and own targets at the same time (and I actually think I prepared them that way). > We can probably improve on the framework vs library support. I guess we should resolve this issue first, IMHO it's a very important one. We should in no case use frameworks on any other OS but OSX. And we should definitely use frameworks on OSX. Since this is a pretty general topic, I think it should be covered by library.make (maybe supporting a XXX_NO_FRAMEWORK bool variable for disabling frameworks on OSX, so that they can still be used for libraries on that platform). regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Jul 18 15:21:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9519C18F6F4; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:21:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07158-03; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C319E18F6EA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249FECD7F0; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:27:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8F3A9ED7-B923-11D7-B026-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnustep-port@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-GNUstep-Port] Cocoa Porting, was: Re: [OGo-Developer] Roadmap and Versioning Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:27:20 +0200 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Freitag, 18. Juli 2003, at 14:59 Uhr, Nicola Pero wrote: > If you attempt this route, please get/use the latest gnustep-make from > CVS, and please contribute back to the main gnustep-make all changes > and > enhancements you do. Sharing is the root of success. :-) Yes, this needs to be done, but it may be a bit hard since OGo gstep-make has changes which need to be merged and which may conflict with "official" GNUstep make policies. It also contains some workarounds around "weird" bugs we found during package building on some old distributions. Also I definitely want to keep a "proven" gstep-make in CVS, GNUstep make wasn't very stable in the past changing a lot of things like pathes which are certainly important for GNUstep in it's state, but would break too much code considered stable in OGo. So I would suggest that we find a way where the OGo sources work with the OGo gstep-make and with the "official" GNUstep make packages at the same time. Does gstep-make allow USER_ROOT=SYSTEM_ROOT=LOCAL_ROOT ? (aka a --with-user-root configure option ?). regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From ronald@manoamano.dk Mon Jul 21 09:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1FE18F7FE for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12407-06 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:17:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fepC.post.tele.dk (fepC.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.147]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4994618F825 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:17:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from manoamano.dk ([62.243.240.8]) by fepC.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030721072351.FXUA5531.fepC.post.tele.dk@manoamano.dk> for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:23:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:23:49 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Ronald Jaramillo To: macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <459D35A8-BB4C-11D7-BD52-0030656C30DE@manoamano.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I tried to follow the build instructions on the website and here is how it goes -GNUstep Make : No problems -GNUstep Objective-C Runtime: This is not nescesary in OSX, is it? -libFoundation Library: This should not be nescesary ( Defaults test work, of course ) -libxml2:configure and installation goes well. /OGo/Libraries/libxml2.so.2 is not there, but the corresponding dylibs are under /powerpc/darwin6.6. Is this ok? -libical:configure and installation OK OGo/Libraries/powerpc/darwin6.6/libical.a instead of OGo/Libraries/libical.so. Ok? -SpiderMonkey: running make install create all the object file by stop here.... make[1]: *** No rule to make target `fdlibm/static_obj/powerpc/darwin6.6/gnu-fd-nil/subproject.o', needed by `static_obj/powerpc/darwin6.6/gnu-fd-nil/libjs_s.a'. Stop. make: *** [libjs.all.library.variables] Error 2 Using pbxbuild creates the build directorie with a framework and a jstool wich works as adverticed. ---Building SOPE--- skyrix-xml: Running make stops with this: make[2]: *** [static_debug_obj/powerpc/darwin6.6/gnu-fd-nil/SaxAttributeList.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [libSaxObjC.all.library.variables] Error 2 make: *** [internal-all] Error 2 Trying to build the with pbxbulid takes me farther along the build but fail to run the examples succesfully: 2003-07-21 09:17:52.930 domxml[22780] -[SaxXMLReaderFactory _loadAvailableBundles]: no XML parser could be found ... 2003-07-21 09:17:52.954 domxml[22780] did not find SAX parser for MIME type text/xml map: {type = immutable, count = 0, capacity = 0, pairs = ( )} 2003-07-21 09:17:52.979 domxml[22780] parsers: {type = immutable, count = 0, values = ( )} 2003-07-21 09:17:52.998 domxml[22780] -[DOMBuilderFactory createDOMBuilder]:43: could not create default DOM builder because no SAX default reader could be constructed. could not create DOM builder ! domxml has exited with status 2. Any suggestions on where to start dealing with this issues? Could somebody who has manage to compile SOAP post some notes on what changes where nescesary? Should GNUStep make be used to build the third party libraries as OSX frameworks? Is there any example og how to acomplish that? /mvh Ronald Jaramillo From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 21 12:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7214F18F67C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:01:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03786-03 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:01:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250BC18F51C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A536AB6F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 420F142155 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:07:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id C027B4215A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F1BBA18.3000905@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:02:00 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX References: <459D35A8-BB4C-11D7-BD52-0030656C30DE@manoamano.dk> In-Reply-To: <459D35A8-BB4C-11D7-BD52-0030656C30DE@manoamano.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ronald Jaramillo wrote: > Hi, > I tried to follow the build instructions on the website and here is how > it goes Hi, following these instructions is almost hopeless on OSX right now! (unfortunately) I think some people are willing to help on a port, but this will take some time, and like you already guessed, the port should use the Apple Objective-C runtime and Foundation library. Maybe Apple steps in and sponsors a port to OSX ;-) If you nevertheless want to try the "raw Unix" way of building things, you should: a) have a gcc 3.3 with the GNU runtime installed b) configure gstep-make to use shared libraries c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX - especially the dynamic loading is probably broken on OSX but required for OGo d) fix all the other problems coming up ;-) This will be rather hard, since OSX is pretty different from a "usual" Unix like OS in some aspects. Personally I would like to see a libFoundation which fully works on OSX, so that you can choose to build OGo without Cocoa dependencies. But IMHO the work is much better invested in Cocoa Foundation. best regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From nicola@brainstorm.co.uk Mon Jul 21 12:04:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D72F18F6D1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03786-06 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:03:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.brainstorm.co.uk (smtp.brainstorm.co.uk [217.169.5.196]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BF318F6AC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nicola.brainstorm.co.uk (IDENT:RPDUmv/Cpc6MHKx6idoWAFxDUufYkRuc@nicola.brainstorm.co.uk [192.168.4.138]) by mail.brainstorm.co.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LAAaO04008 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:10:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:15:18 +0100 (BST) From: Nicola Pero To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX In-Reply-To: <3F1BBA18.3000905@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Helge Hess wrote: > Ronald Jaramillo wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried to follow the build instructions on the website and here is how > > it goes > > Hi, following these instructions is almost hopeless on OSX right now! > (unfortunately) > > I think some people are willing to help on a port, but this will take > some time, and like you already guessed, the port should use the Apple > Objective-C runtime and Foundation library. > Maybe Apple steps in and sponsors a port to OSX ;-) > > If you nevertheless want to try the "raw Unix" way of building things, > you should: > a) have a gcc 3.3 with the GNU runtime installed > b) configure gstep-make to use shared libraries > c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX gnustep-base is reported working on MacOSX, so you could use that one instead. From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 21 12:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B2B18F6C1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03776-10 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4691B18F6AC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C8ECDD01 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:27:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 720CB4215B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:26:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 98EEE4214C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:26:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F1BBE90.3090300@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:21:04 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Nicola Pero wrote: >>c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX > gnustep-base is reported working on MacOSX, so you could use that one > instead. a) does it work with the Apple runtime ? b) does it properly support bundle loading on MacOSX Anyway, one more reason to get the port to gstep-base ready :-) regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From nicola@brainstorm.co.uk Mon Jul 21 12:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD45C18F6C1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:34:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18588-01 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.brainstorm.co.uk (smtp.brainstorm.co.uk [217.169.5.196]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC29518F6AC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:33:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nicola.brainstorm.co.uk (IDENT:f8C0T+DsN/IU4D8mKvKyqyrb/uLGkmOL@nicola.brainstorm.co.uk [192.168.4.138]) by mail.brainstorm.co.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LAegO06361 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:40:42 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:45:25 +0100 (BST) From: Nicola Pero To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX In-Reply-To: <3F1BBE90.3090300@opengroupware.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > >>c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX > > > > gnustep-base is reported working on MacOSX, so you could use that one > > instead. > > a) does it work with the Apple runtime ? No. Not there have been no attempts :-) > b) does it properly support bundle loading on MacOSX I don't know. :-) If it can, it can only load gnustep bundles anyway. From ronald@manoamano.dk Mon Jul 21 12:47:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B04718F6D1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:47:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18588-10 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:47:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fepW.post.tele.dk (fepw.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.232]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9314318F6C1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:47:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from manoamano.dk ([62.243.240.8]) by fepW.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030721105425.BRCZ29788.fepW.post.tele.dk@manoamano.dk> for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:54:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:54:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ronald Jaramillo To: macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3F1BBA18.3000905@opengroupware.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well it sound that to begin with it, I'll have to pull my intel hardware out of the closet = ( /Ronald Jaramillo On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Helge Hess wrote: > Ronald Jaramillo wrote: >> Hi, >> I tried to follow the build instructions on the website and here is >> how it goes > > Hi, following these instructions is almost hopeless on OSX right now! > (unfortunately) > > I think some people are willing to help on a port, but this will take > some time, and like you already guessed, the port should use the Apple > Objective-C runtime and Foundation library. > Maybe Apple steps in and sponsors a port to OSX ;-) > > If you nevertheless want to try the "raw Unix" way of building things, > you should: > a) have a gcc 3.3 with the GNU runtime installed > b) configure gstep-make to use shared libraries > c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX > - especially the dynamic loading is probably broken on OSX but > required for OGo > d) fix all the other problems coming up ;-) > > This will be rather hard, since OSX is pretty different from a "usual" > Unix like OS in some aspects. > > Personally I would like to see a libFoundation which fully works on > OSX, so that you can choose to build OGo without Cocoa dependencies. > But IMHO the work is much better invested in Cocoa Foundation. > > best regards, > Helge > -- > http://www.opengroupware.org/ > > -- > OpenGroupware.org MacOS X > macosx@opengroupware.org > http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/macosx > From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 21 12:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE06618F6D1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:52:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20834-10 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:52:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE0D18F6C1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:52:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE1FD0373 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:00:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id B5D7342159 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 638F0420C7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:58:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F1BC634.7000500@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:53:40 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ronald Jaramillo wrote: > Well it sound that to begin with it, I'll have to pull my intel hardware > out of the closet = ( No, you could also install GNU/Linux or BSD on your Mac, eg Debian seems to work just fine on PPC hardware. regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Mon Jul 21 12:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B803918F726 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:54:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22860-08 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:54:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D11B18F723 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:54:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B185CD0373 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:01:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 5621342339 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:00:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 7571142334 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:00:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F1BC694.20004@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:55:16 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compiling OGo - OSX References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Nicola Pero wrote: >>>>c) compile libFoundation and fix it to work with MacOSX >>>gnustep-base is reported working on MacOSX, so you could use that one >>>instead. >> >>a) does it work with the Apple runtime ? > No. Not there have been no attempts :-) Sad, could be used very well for speed comparisons ;-) >>b) does it properly support bundle loading on MacOSX > I don't know. :-) If it can, it can only load gnustep bundles anyway. Bundle loading is important for OGo, it won't work without. Of course we don't need to load any Cocoa bundles. regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Tue Jul 22 19:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DC818F51C; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07135-10; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173EE18F518; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FCFD2AA5; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:21:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <9390E000-BC65-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> References: <9390E000-BC65-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:20:46 +0200 To: developer@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-Developer] opengroupware with fink Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, On Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003, at 18:57 Uhr, TheSin wrote: > I'm starting to add opengroupware to fink (Mac OS X and darwin) pkg > system. fink.sf.net You might consider joining macosx@opengroupware.org as well and read the archives. I fear that you might run into serious problems in the dynamic loading section of libFoundation. But you might be able to work around it using the dlcompat thing, I'm not sure. > I've run into issue, first off the build system is not fun to say the > least, gstep-make is absolutely a lot of fun! :-) But you don't built a 600.000 LOC project with a short make at the root level. > My main issue ATM is autodoc, I've made a pkg for autodoc from, This is not required at all. Just always explicitly specify the makefile, line "all" or "install": make debug=yes all It appears that in some makefiles the default target is "autodoc" instead of "all", which is bad :-( best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Tue Jul 22 19:40:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF418F51C; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:40:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20967-10; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89BE18F518; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (unknown [213.211.192.194]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31197D2B36; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:48:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <9D795424-BC6A-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> References: <9390E000-BC65-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> <9D795424-BC6A-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:47:59 +0200 To: developer@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-Developer] opengroupware with fink Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003, at 19:33 Uhr, TheSin wrote: > no fink does not deal with Native OSX ports, only low level unix stuff. Still Darwin uses mach-o ... As I said, you may work around that using compatibility wrappers which emulate libld. Anyway, just try and tell us, whether it works. regards, Helge > On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Helge Hess wrote: >> You might consider joining macosx@opengroupware.org as well and read >> the archives. I fear that you might run into serious problems in the >> dynamic loading section of libFoundation. But you might be able to >> work around it using the dlcompat thing, I'm not sure. >> -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org/ From thesin@southofheaven.org Tue Jul 22 19:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A46618F51C; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:26:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19611-04; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from k-pax.goarctic.com (goarctic.com [216.194.67.138]) by mail.opengroupware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7F818F518; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k-pax.goarctic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B752F67B; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from k-pax.goarctic.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (k-pax [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19839-05; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from southofheaven.org (105.207-229-35-0.interbaun.com [207.229.35.105]) by k-pax.goarctic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63FE2F5C4; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:30 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9390E000-BC65-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9D795424-BC6A-11D7-BE29-000393DC455C@southofheaven.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org From: TheSin Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:32 -0600 To: developer@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.578) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p3 (Debian) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: [OGo-Developer] opengroupware with fink Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: no fink does not deal with Native OSX ports, only low level unix stuff. On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Helge Hess wrote: > You might consider joining macosx@opengroupware.org as well and read > the archives. I fear that you might run into serious problems in the > dynamic loading section of libFoundation. But you might be able to > work around it using the dlcompat thing, I'm not sure. From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Fri Aug 8 10:01:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 4E90318F5D2; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23757-03; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 85A5418F5B1; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by imap.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5946EE0BD3; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:05:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 2258442300; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (dogbert.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.118]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386)) with ESMTP id 2A018422F2; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:01:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F335878.2080502@opengroupware.org> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:59:52 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: developer@opengroupware.org, gnustep@opengroupware.org, macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Project Pages Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi there, I started to setup project pages to provide some hooks into related material: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/ Please let me know if I should add this or that to any project. Those pages are more intended as a "static" entry point for further information. Eg (developer) documentation efforts should definitely start at "docs.opengroupware.org", which provides Wiki like free editing. regards, Helge -- http://www.opengroupware.org/ From ringods@yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 13 00:14:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 1071018F666 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:14:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13567-06 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web10704.mail.yahoo.com (web10704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.212]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with SMTP id 9B51318F664 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:14:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030812221726.30954.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.11.181.61] by web10704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:17:26 BST Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:17:26 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ringo=20De=20Smet?= To: MacOS X OpenGroupWare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Compilation of libical failed! Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I just retrieved a fresh copy of the sources through CVS and I'm following the build procedures as described on the website. Everything works up to libical. Here is the error message I get: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src -I. -g -O2 -c icallangbind.c -o icallangbind.o icallangbind.c:25: header file 'malloc.h' not found cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying in basic mode make[2]: *** [icallangbind.lo] Error 1 make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Any idea? 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Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From pbernardi@myrealbox.com Wed Aug 13 14:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 7827718F6B6 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01956-02 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 2E3EB18F69C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from myrealbox.com pbernardi@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [203.220.92.188] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.35 $ on Novell NetWare; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 06:45:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:45:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Compilation of libical failed! Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Pat Bernardi To: macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20030812221726.30954.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <053490D1-CD8C-11D7-9025-003065AD5E30@myrealbox.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I ran into the same problem too. Apple seems to have put these files in different locations to other unixs. Just edit the 25th line in icallangbind.c (you'll find it in src/libical) from: #include to #include You'll also need to change the include in ycc.y and vobject.c (found in src/libicalvcal) as well. However this needs to change to rather than . Make will fail if you don't specify the right malloc.h Hope this helps, Pat Bernardi On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 08:17 AM, Ringo De Smet wrote: > > Hello, > > I just retrieved a fresh copy of the sources through CVS and I'm > following > the build procedures as described on the website. Everything works up > to > libical. Here is the error message I get: > > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src > -I. -g > -O2 -c icallangbind.c -o icallangbind.o > icallangbind.c:25: header file 'malloc.h' not found > cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying in > basic > mode > make[2]: *** [icallangbind.lo] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > > Any idea? > > Ringo > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ > -- > OpenGroupware.org MacOS X > macosx@opengroupware.org > http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/macosx > From marcel@metaobject.com Sun Aug 17 16:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 2CE0F18F6D0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:52:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03218-02 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:52:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mfe003.mail-gw.net (unknown [195.90.205.3]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 4892918F6A4 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:52:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [212.158.202.221] (account postmaster@metaobject.de HELO metaobject.com) by mfe003.mail-gw.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 4323313 for macosx@opengroupware.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:57:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:56:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Marcel Weiher To: macosx@opengroupware.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0CCEFF80-D0C3-11D7-87F9-000A9573C6A8@metaobject.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Building - FoundationExt? Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I started trying to build (found the pbrojs, great!), but don't seem to be able to find the FoundationExt that's required (grepping the source tree). I first suspected the extensions that come with libFoundation, but those appear to be different. Some googling revealed that they might be a part of gnustep. ? Marcel -- Marcel Weiher Metaobject Software Technologies marcel@metaobject.com www.metaobject.com Metaprogramming for the Graphic Arts. HOM, IDEAs, MetaAd etc. 1d480c25f397c4786386135f8e8938e4 From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Sun Aug 17 19:51:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id A5A9518F6CF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:51:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24091-02 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 840B118F382 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (ppp247-dialin.mdlink.de [213.211.192.247]) by mail.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A72E70CB for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:59:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F3FC29B.5070607@opengroupware.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:59:55 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Building - FoundationExt? References: <0CCEFF80-D0C3-11D7-87F9-000A9573C6A8@metaobject.com> In-Reply-To: <0CCEFF80-D0C3-11D7-87F9-000A9573C6A8@metaobject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Marcel Weiher wrote: > I started trying to build (found the pbrojs, great!), but don't seem to > be able to find the FoundationExt that's required (grepping the source > tree). I first suspected the extensions that come with libFoundation, > but those appear to be different. Some googling revealed that they > might be a part of gnustep. Hm, yes. The PBX are somewhat "old" (out of sync) - until some months ago you were required to use the so called FoundationExt library which contains all the extensions coming with libFoundation for other Foundation libraries (like subclasses of NSException or RETAIN/RELEASE macros or UnixSignalHandler etc). Actually I think I moved most/all of the required things into NGExtensions (skyrix-core) and actually the code should be independend of FoundationExt now. "should" like in "did not test" ;-) Unfortunately I can't open the PBX files anymore since my PBX complains about too old a version - I guess Filip saved them in Xcode or something? So if the PBX contains link reference to the FoundationExt.framework just remove it and if some luck it will just compile. On the other side you may need to add some more (new) source files in NGExtensions to the PBX. In short: OGo should work completely without FoundationExt. If stuff is missing, move to NGExtensions or rewrite the code to work without. BTW: the overall strategy is to use gnustep-make on MacOSX as well for the various known reasons why PBX ***** in multiuser / multiplatform / versioning systems. Greetings, Helge From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Sun Aug 17 19:54:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id BE51318F6E8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24091-05 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id E89C218F6CF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:54:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (ppp247-dialin.mdlink.de [213.211.192.247]) by mail.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACADE70D0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:03:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F3FC367.4020607@opengroupware.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:03:19 +0200 From: Helge Hess User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macosx@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] Building - FoundationExt? References: <0CCEFF80-D0C3-11D7-87F9-000A9573C6A8@metaobject.com> In-Reply-To: <0CCEFF80-D0C3-11D7-87F9-000A9573C6A8@metaobject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Marcel Weiher wrote: > I started trying to build (found the pbrojs, great!), but don't seem to > be able to find the FoundationExt that's required (grepping the source > tree). I first suspected the extensions that come with libFoundation, > but those appear to be different. Some googling revealed that they > might be a part of gnustep. Oh, BTW, there is a MacOSX project page where I try to collect issues: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/macosx/ let me know if I need to add something. Helge From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Aug 28 17:34:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id C0D0518F5D6 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:34:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12916-01 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:34:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id F3D2118F381 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:34:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by mail.mdlink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093BCF2A96; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:40:58 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org To: Nicola Pero From: Helge Hess Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0545BD57-D96E-11D7-B00C-000393BBAFF6@opengroupware.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] gstep-make Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Nicola, is there some MacOSX specific install-howto for gstep-make? Eg how to properly configure the pathes to point to OSX pathes and how to enable PBX to build GNUstep-Make projects (maybe even a template project for use with PBX?) I would like to use it the same way you did with Renaissance - at build-time, yet not at runtime. BTW: one thing which is missing in (default) gstep-make for OGo is the ability to configure the GNUSTEP_USER_ROOT to a fixed path at configure time. Can you add that? Greetings, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org - http://www.opengroupware.org From helge.hess@skyrix.com Mon Sep 8 14:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 4780C18F71B for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:53:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08156-10 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 6206218F71A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:53:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from skyrix.in.skyrix.com (gw.skyrix.com [213.211.192.97]) by mail.mdlink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC82F7BB6 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:59:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.176] (mac.in.skyrix.com [192.168.0.176]) by skyrix.in.skyrix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B28D98125 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:55:20 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v591) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <35CD9F12-E1FB-11D7-AE1D-000393BBAFF6@skyrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macosx@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:51:48 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.591) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Project Page Updated Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, the MacOSX port project page is updated: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/macosx/ Eg I added some status chart with some component specific notes. regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org => http://www.opengroupware.org/ From ringods@yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 17 21:38:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 0711E18F858 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04202-05 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web10703.mail.yahoo.com (web10703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.211]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with SMTP id A787118F679 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:38:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20030917193854.33654.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.11.180.35] by web10703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:38:54 BST Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:38:54 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ringo=20De=20Smet?= To: MacOS X OpenGroupWare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] libxml2 included in Panther! Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Guys, Good news for OpenGroupware: libxml2 will be a default library on MacOS X 1.0 aka Panther. I just found out while looking at the ADC TV sessions from WWDC. Ringo ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Thu Dec 4 22:46:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id C547018F4CB; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:46:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02054-02; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 9B86C18F47F; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.101.126] (unknown [213.187.86.104]) by mail.mdlink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309920CDC3; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:43:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <50FB8BAF-26A3-11D8-BC93-00039340AF4A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macosx@opengroupware.org, feedback@opengroupware.org From: Helge Hess Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:46:28 +0100 To: Benjamin Wutt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Re: Mac OS X port Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Ben, I'll CC macosx@ogo, hope you don't mind. You'll probably want to join the list. On 04.12.2003, at 22:01, Benjamin Wutt wrote: > My name is Ben Wutt and I work for the University of > Wisconsin-Madison. I am very interested in helping to port this over > to Mac OS X as my group only runs Macs and could really benefit from > this application (along with numerous other people I know). Excellent. Help is very much appreciated. > What is the status of a Mac OS X port? http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/macosx/ > I downloaded the source and started working on compiling all of the > third party modules and started documenting basic changes that I've > needed to make so far, but before I put too much effort and time into > it, I wanted to check in so that I don't waste time duplicating work > that has already been done. Let me know how I can help! Well, the current blocker at least for me is GDLAccess (thirdparty/gnustep-db). It needs to be changed not to use FoundationExt (eg runtime calls need to be changed from the GNU to the Apple runtime). best regards, Helge -- OpenGroupware.org http://www.opengroupware.org/ From max@berger.name Wed Dec 3 02:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id C69E418FE45 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:08:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20337-08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:08:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from natsmtp00.webmailer.de (natsmtp00.rzone.de [81.169.145.165]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id DC7D518F560 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:08:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from leda.jupiter (pD9E4E24E.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.226.78]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB318Hk2022962 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:08:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.11.204] (helo=[192.168.11.204]) by leda.jupiter with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ARLV1-0003qu-00 for macosx@opengroupware.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:08:15 +0100 X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-4--235332393" Message-Id: <19CFFE60-252D-11D8-838A-00039392258C@berger.name> X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Max Berger X-Habeas-Swe-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:07:44 +0100 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0 (v30, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Announcement: AddressBookSync for OSX works! Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Apple-Mail-4--235332393 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi OSX fans, today I've finished the first working osx version of my SyncML vCardReceiver. Howto get/build/install it? Server: 1. check out the syncml module from opengroupwares cvs: CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.opengroupware.org:/cvs cvs checkout syncml 2. build libsyncml: cd syncml/libsyncml;make -s debug=yes install; cd ../.. 3. build the ZideStore plugin: cd syncml/SyncMLZSAdapter;make -s debug=yes install ; cd ../.. Note: You might have to do a little header tweak first so that the correct Zidestoreheaders are found: cd [yourogodir]/Headers ; ln -s ZideStoreBackend Backend (see Bug 458) 4. (re)start ZideStore 5. You may now acces the SyncML plugin at http://[yourserver]:23000/zidestore/SyncML Client: 1. check out the syncml module from opengroupwares cvs: CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.opengroupware.org:/cvs cvs checkout syncml 2. open the XCode project. You Currently need: Mac OS 10.3 and XCode. You also need some of the Frameworks (Foundation, DOM, SaxObjC, NGExtensions) in a place where OS X finds them. Last, but not least you have manually copy SyncMLSaxMap.xmap to you ~/Library/SaxMappings directory. 3. build the AddressBookSync Application Warning: This is currently a one-way-from-server only sync and will overwrite your local addressbook. Also, companies currently do now work correctly (see bug # 462 ). If this sounds to complicated, I can also provide binaries for the frameworks and the application. Any comments are appreciated. mfG Max Berger e-mail: max@berger.name -- PGP/GnuPG ID: E81592BC Print: F489F8759D4132923EC4 BC7E072AB73AE81592BC For information about me or my projects please see http://max.berger.name --Apple-Mail-4--235332393 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/zTdjByq3OugVkrwRAv2xAKDY3eeFQiC3uPfPDR+id8LDCBx1/wCfa+fr d8RwYe+7be4/H+giIOGpXHw= =hNeP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-4--235332393-- From max@berger.name Sat Jan 17 19:12:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 15E4A1903A8 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:12:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02862-10 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from natsmtp01.rzone.de (natsmtp01.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 524BB1902E7 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from leda.jupiter (pD9E4E469.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.228.105]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0HIC0v0004329 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:12:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from mage by leda.jupiter with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AhuvO-0000z9-00 for macosx@opengroupware.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:11:58 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:11:58 +0100 From: Max Berger To: macosx@opengroupware.org Message-ID: <20040117181158.GA9377@leda.jupiter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] NGObjWeb Version number to high Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi *, since I would like to work completely locally on my machine, I have=20 started to try and get OGo running on Mac OS X (10.3.2). So far, everything works fine up to NGObjWeb. It tries to comile as=20 version 4.2.283, but /usr/bin/libtool supports only versions up to .255 So heres a question: How could THAT be fixed? I am currently using a=20 lower NGObjWeb version number, but that is a really bad idea. maybe use a different version scheme? maybe use a different libtool?=20 maybe use frameworks?=20 btw: do frameworks work on non-macos machines? could ogo be completely=20 moved to use frameworks instead of libraries? just some thoughts --- make output --- Linking library libNGObjWeb ... /usr/bin/libtool: third field (283) in argument for: -current_version=20 4.2.283 too large (maximum 255) Usage: /usr/bin/libtool -static [-] file [...] [-filelist=20 listfile[,dirname]] [-arch_only arch] [-sacLT] Usage: /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic [-] file [...] [-filelist=20 listfile[,dirname]] [-arch_only arch] [-o output] [-install_name name]=20 [-compatibility_version #] [-current_version #] [-seg1addr 0x#]=20 [-segs_read_only_addr 0x#] [-segs_read_write_addr 0x#] [-seg_addr_table=20 ] [-seg_addr_table_filename ] [-all_load]=20 [-noall_load] --- --- manpage of libtool --- -current_version number For dynamic shared library files this specifies the=20 current ver- sion number of the library. The program using the=20 library can obtain the current version of the library =20 programmatically to determine exactly which version of the library it is=20 using. The format of number is X[.Y[.Z]] where X must be a positive = =20 non- zero number less than or equal to 65535, and .Y and=20 =2EZ are optional and if present must be non-negative numbers less = =20 than or equal to 255. If this is not specified then it has a=20 value of 0. --- mfG Max Berger e-mail: max@berger.name --=20 PGP/GnuPG ID: E81592BC Print: F489F8759D4132923EC4 BC7E072AB73AE81592BC For information about me or my projects please see http://max.berger.name --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQFACXrtByq3OugVkrwRAgPJAKCR5Tzm3q11d2cm5uYowfjR34GhGwCguXbp GtuXjkLn5uksBhxRvJ+LKpk= =hg+n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Sat Jan 17 23:25:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 5AA091902E8 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20590-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:25:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (medusa.mdlink.de [213.211.192.34]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id E0DA01902B6 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:25:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [213.187.86.104] (unknown [213.187.86.104]) by mail.mdlink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF3B262F5F; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:24:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20040117181158.GA9377@leda.jupiter> References: <20040117181158.GA9377@leda.jupiter> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <05F45865-493C-11D8-A519-000393C29C2A@opengroupware.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller_Marcus?= , Nicola Pero From: Helge Hess Subject: Re: [OGo-MacOSX] NGObjWeb Version number to high Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:25:15 +0100 To: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 17.01.2004, at 19:11, Max Berger wrote: > since I would like to work completely locally on my machine, I have > started to try and get OGo running on Mac OS X (10.3.2). > > So far, everything works fine up to NGObjWeb. It tries to comile as > version 4.2.283, but /usr/bin/libtool supports only versions up to .255 Interesting, have not seen that before. Thats pretty bad, since we increase the subminor version on *every* change. > So heres a question: How could THAT be fixed? I am currently using a > lower NGObjWeb version number, but that is a really bad idea. Yes. For now I have changed the Version file to produce a subminor of 0 on MacOSX, so that it builds at least. > maybe use a different version scheme? maybe use a different libtool? > maybe use frameworks? Well, the .xcode projects build frameworks. But .xcode projects cannot really be used in multiuser setups being just a dumped archive (no useful change tracking possible). > btw: do frameworks work on non-macos machines? could ogo be completely > moved to use frameworks instead of libraries? Oh, please don't start the framework discussion ;-) Yes, in theory frameworks could be used on Linux as well, but frameworks s**k big time - at least, if they are not supported by the dynamic linker of the host system. I'm *very* much against that on non-OSX platforms. Greets Helge -- I'm describing in a paragraph what took 14 hours to figure out. You may want to sniff glue for a while, then reread this when you get out of rehab. [aLa] From joshpaul@mac.com Wed Feb 11 02:51:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: macosx@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 33A49190B11 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:51:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15524-01 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:51:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id B4F8A190B0A for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i1B1pSdM008421 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-66-75-189-229.socal.rr.com [66.75.189.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id i1B1pRVB021121 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macosx@opengroupware.org From: Josh Paul Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:51:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-MacOSX] Status Sender: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: macosx-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: macosx@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: macosx@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: MacOS X -related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just looked over the site and noticed a great deal of progress has been made. If I can contribute, where should I focus my energies? Also, where is the repository (if only to check out and see what's there)? TIA. - joshpaul From helge.hess@opengroupware.org Wed Feb 11 13:38:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-