[OGo-MacOSX] Meaning of web-ui output (built from trunk build 1934 + SOPE 4.6 beta on Mac OS X successfully)
Tabitha McNerney
macosx@opengroupware.org
Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:10:31 -1000
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Hello all,
I'm pleased to report that I have just successfully built and installed
OpenGroupware 1.1 from trunk (build 1934) with SOPE 4.6 beta (containing
gnustep-make 1.13) and with apache 2.2.4 on Mac OS X Server 10.4.9
I am intentionally cross posting this message because the questions I have
may not be related to OGo running on Mac OS X but I also don't' see a lot o=
f
people posting about their Mac OS X experiences and instead of people
complaining about their experiences not working, how about being happy abou=
t
something working and having some positive news for a change?
The last time I built OGo was from version 1.1.6 yummy in August 2006 and
using SOPE 4.5.9 alpha with gnustep-make 1.10, so I noticed a few teeny tin=
y
changes when running the web-ui, and thus the formation of my questions:
1.) After starting web-ui, I noticed this new message:
Apr 29 17:32:38 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: SNS support disabled.
>
What is SNS?
2.) After making the first connection to web-ui from a browser these
messages appear and are of interest:
Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> Note: n=
o
> OGo documentation installed!
>
I wonder what mistake I made and where should the OGo documentation be
installed? Am I missing a defaults entry perhaps? I didn't see anything
special in my previous sys admin / OGo installation documentation about thi=
s
from last year.
Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> SP:
> (null)
>
What does SP with a null value mean? I
Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: [ERROR] (116D116D014634D74A) did not
> find dockable page: 'Registration'
> Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: SkyDock did not find dockable page
> Registration
>
I also don't recall seeing this error before. Any suggestions on what to do
to alleviate the Registration dockable page error?
Thank you tons,
Tabitha
P.S. I'd love to see the core maintainers of OpenGroupware get together wit=
h
Apple so that Apple would bundle OGo with Mac OS X Server in a future
version such as Leopard like they are doing for the CalDAV as part of their
forthcoming new calendar server in Leopard Server <
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/icalserver.html > which reads
excerpted:
> Works well with others
>
> iCal Server uses open calendaring protocols for integrating with leading
> calendaring programs including iCal 3 in Leopard, Mozilla's Sunbird, OSAF=
's
> Chandler and Microsoft Outlook. These open standard protocols include Cal=
DAV
> =97 a set of extensions to WebDAV =97 and interchange formats such as iCa=
lendar,
> iMIP, and iTIP.
>
> Apple is a member of the CalConnect Consortium<http://www.calconnect.org/=
>and is committed to open, standards-based calendaring and scheduling
> protocols. To further the widespread adoption and deployment of these
> calendaring standards, complete source code will be released to the open
> source community as part of the Darwin Calendar Server project, hosted on
> the opensource.apple.com website
>
Yes Apple, and don't forget our friend OpeGroupware!
Apple is also incorporating Ruby on Rails
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/more.html which is free marketin=
g
for Rails (this is similar to what I'd love to see Apple do with
OpenGroupware):
> Internet and Web
>
> Leopard Server also features administration for either Apache 2.2 or 1.3,
> MySQL 5 with Apache/MySQL/PHP integration, JBoss 4, and Tomcat 5 for host=
ing
> EJB 3.0 and J2EE 1.4-compliant enterprise applications, and Ruby on Rails
> with Mongrel for simplified development and deployment of web-based
> applications.
>
If Apple bundled OpenGroupware with Leopard, it could bring a lot of
momentum and wider adoption and therefore a more rich community of users
using OpenGroupware IMHO (note: this is nothing against OpenBSD, FreeBSD, o=
r
Linux whatsoever). It would just be nice to see OpenGroupware in the hands
of more people including people who might not be greatly skilled at handlin=
g
the vagaries of sys admin that requires patience such as when building OGo
and SOPE and gnustep-make with mod_ngo for Apache. And for the doubters
about the future of Apple and about Apple being influential, its clear from
Paul Graham's Essay (Graham of Y Combinator startup company incubator and
investment company) that Apple is well on its way to a rare comeback:
http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html
The last nail in the coffin came, of all places, from Apple. Thanks to OS X=
,
> Apple has come back from the dead in a way that is extremely rare in
> technology. [2 <http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html#f2n>] Their
> victory is so complete that I'm now surprised when I come across a comput=
er
> running Windows. Nearly all the people we fund at Y Combinator use Apple
> laptops. It was the same in the audience at startup school<http://www.bos=
stalks.com/StartupSchool2007/all_macs_and_all_writing.jpg>.
> All the computer people use Macs or Linux now. Windows is for grandmas, l=
ike
> Macs used to be in the 90s. So not only does the desktop no longer matter=
,
> no one who cares about computers uses Microsoft's anyway.
>
> And of course Apple has Microsoft on the run in music too, with TV and
> phones on the way.
>
> I'm glad Microsoft is dead. They were like Nero or Commodus=97evil in the
> way only inherited power can make you. Because remember, the Microsoft
> monopoly didn't begin with Microsoft. They got it from IBM.
>
So let's tag team Microsoft Exchange. How about a fund raiser to send Helge
Hess and his core team of OGo musketeers to beautiful Cupertino, California
to meet with Apple at their headquarters and do some further Microsoft
coffin nailing! It would be a great way to come full circle considering tha=
t
OpenGroupware is possible due to the origins of NeXTSTEP and WebObjects :-)
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Hello all,<br><br>I'm pleased to report that I have just successfully b=
uilt and installed OpenGroupware 1.1 from trunk (build 1934) with SOPE 4.6 =
beta (containing gnustep-make 1.13) and with apache 2.2.4 on Mac OS X Serve=
r=20
10.4.9<br><br>I am intentionally cross posting this message because the que=
stions I have may not be related to OGo running on Mac OS X but I also don&=
#39;t' see a lot of people posting about their Mac OS X experiences and=
instead of people complaining about their experiences not working, how abo=
ut being happy about something working and having some positive news for a =
change?
<br><br>The last time I built OGo was from version 1.1.6 yummy in August 20=
06 and using SOPE 4.5.9 alpha with gnustep-make 1.10, so I noticed a few te=
eny tiny changes when running the web-ui, and thus the formation of my ques=
tions:
<br><br>1.) After starting web-ui, I noticed this new message:<br><br><bloc=
kquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Apr 29 17:32:38 ogo-we=
bui-1.1
[4461]: SNS support disabled.<br></blockquote><br>What is SNS?<br><br>2.) =
After making the first connection to web-ui from a browser these messages a=
ppear and are of interest:<br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> N=
ote: no OGo documentation installed!<br></blockquote><br>I wonder what mist=
ake I made and where should the OGo documentation be installed? Am I missin=
g a defaults entry perhaps? I didn't see anything special in my previou=
s sys admin / OGo installation documentation about this from last year.
<br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); mar=
gin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Apr 29 17=
:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> SP: (null)
<br></blockquote><br>What does SP with a null value mean? I<br><br><blockqu=
ote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui=
-1.1
[4461]: [ERROR] (116D116D014634D74A) did not find dockable page: 'Regi=
stration'<br>Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: SkyDock did not find=
dockable page Registration<br></blockquote><br>I also don't recall see=
ing this error before. Any suggestions on what to do to alleviate the Regis=
tration dockable page error?
<br><br>Thank you tons,<br><br>Tabitha<br><br>P.S. I'd love to see the =
core maintainers of OpenGroupware get together with Apple so that Apple wou=
ld bundle OGo with Mac OS X Server in a future version such as Leopard like=
they are doing for the CalDAV as part of their forthcoming new calendar se=
rver in Leopard Server <=20
<a href=3D"http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/icalserver.html">http=
://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/icalserver.html</a> > which reads=
excerpted:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<h3>Works well with others</h3><p>iCal Server uses open
calendaring protocols for integrating with leading calendaring programs
including iCal 3 in Leopard, Mozilla's Sunbird, OSAF's Chandler and
Microsoft Outlook. These open standard protocols include CalDAV =97 a set
of extensions to WebDAV =97 and interchange formats such as iCalendar,
iMIP, and iTIP.</p><p>Apple is a member of the <a href=3D"http://www.calcon=
nect.org/">CalConnect Consortium</a>
and is committed to open, standards-based calendaring and scheduling
protocols. To further the widespread adoption and deployment of these
calendaring standards, complete source code will be released to the
open source community as part of the Darwin Calendar Server project,
hosted on the <a href=3D"http://opensource.apple.com">opensource.apple.com<=
/a> website</p></blockquote>
=09=09=09=09
=09=09=09=09Yes Apple, and don't forget our friend OpeGroupware!<br><br=
>Apple is also incorporating Ruby on Rails <a href=3D"http://www.apple.com/=
server/macosx/leopard/more.html">http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard=
/more.html
</a> which is free marketing for Rails (this is similar to what I'd lov=
e to see Apple do with OpenGroupware):<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex=
;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<h3>Internet and Web</h3><p>Leopard
Server also features administration for either Apache 2.2 or 1.3, MySQL
5 with Apache/MySQL/PHP integration, JBoss 4, and Tomcat 5 for hosting
EJB 3.0 and J2EE 1.4-compliant enterprise applications, and <span style=3D"=
font-weight: bold;">Ruby on
Rails with Mongrel for simplified development and deployment of
web-based applications</span>.</p></blockquote>=20
=09=09=09=09
=09=09=09=09If Apple bundled OpenGroupware with Leopard, it could bring a l=
ot of momentum and wider adoption and therefore a more rich community of us=
ers using OpenGroupware IMHO (note: this is nothing against OpenBSD, FreeBS=
D, or Linux whatsoever). It would just be nice to see OpenGroupware in the =
hands of more people including people who might not be greatly skilled at h=
andling the vagaries of sys admin that requires patience such as when build=
ing OGo and SOPE and gnustep-make with mod_ngo for Apache. And for the doub=
ters about the future of Apple and about Apple being influential, its clear=
from Paul Graham's Essay (Graham of Y Combinator startup company incub=
ator and investment company) that Apple is well on its way to a rare comeba=
ck:
<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html">http://www.pau=
lgraham.com/microsoft.html</a><br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px=
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">
<font face=3D"verdana" size=3D"2">The last nail in the coffin came, of all =
places, from Apple. =20
Thanks to OS X, Apple has come back from the dead in a way
that is extremely rare in technology.
<font color=3D"#777777">[<a href=3D"http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.htm=
l#f2n"><font color=3D"#777777">2</font></a>]</font>
Their victory is so complete that I'm now surprised when I come across
a computer running Windows. Nearly all the people we fund at Y
Combinator use Apple laptops. It was the same in the audience at=20
<a href=3D"http://www.bosstalks.com/StartupSchool2007/all_macs_and_all_writ=
ing.jpg">startup
school</a>. All the computer people use Macs or Linux now. Windows is for
grandmas, like Macs used to be in the 90s. So not only does the
desktop no longer matter, no one who cares about computers uses
Microsoft's anyway.</font><br><br><font face=3D"verdana" size=3D"2">And=
of course Apple has Microsoft on the run in music
too, with TV and phones on the way.</font><br><br><font face=3D"verdana" si=
ze=3D"2">I'm glad Microsoft is dead. They were like Nero or=20
Commodus=97evil
in the way only inherited power can make you. Because remember,
the Microsoft monopoly didn't begin with Microsoft. They got it
from IBM.</font><br></blockquote><br>So let's tag team Microsoft Exchan=
ge. How about a fund raiser to send Helge Hess and his core team of OGo mus=
keteers to beautiful Cupertino, California to meet with Apple at their head=
quarters and do some further Microsoft coffin nailing! It would be a great =
way to come full circle considering that OpenGroupware is possible due to t=
he origins of NeXTSTEP and WebObjects :-)
<br><br>
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