From frank@opengroupware.org Mon Aug 18 23:10:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id E982718F680 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22620-10 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from amazone.paranoid.nl (pos-2-0-amazone.boerde.de [212.21.74.228]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 404DC18F5C1 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by amazone.paranoid.nl (AMAZONE) with ESMTP id AD362374ED for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from opengroupware.org (minax.paranoid.nl [212.21.74.168]) by amazone.paranoid.nl (AMAZONE) with ESMTP id 4E7F1374EC for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:15:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F4142AF.2010209@opengroupware.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:18:39 +0200 From: Frank Reppin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030726 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 on AMAZONE.PARANOID.NL X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Users-RU] List opened! Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello and welcome to our russian speaking community! -- http://www.opengroupware.org From netzah@irkutsk.ru Tue Aug 19 18:48:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id C92FD18F74B; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12999-09; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nmh.irtel.ru (nmh.irtel.ru [195.46.105.194]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 7F5AD18F6D1; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 195.46.122.78 (78.122.dial.irtel.ru [195.46.122.78] (may be forged)) by nmh.irtel.ru (8.12.9/SQL-8.12.9-18/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7JGr1L0024865; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:53:03 +0900 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:53:16 +0900 From: Zakhar Bardymov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/11) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4288010902.20030820015316@irkutsk.ru> To: discuss-ru@opengroupware.org Cc: users-ru@opengroupware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) at opengroupware.org Subject: [OGo-Users-RU] =?koi8-r?B?SGVsbG8hIPDSz9fF0svBIGtvaTgtciDXINTFzcUg0MnT2M3B?= Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: Zakhar Bardymov List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Добрый день! Проверка koi8-r в теле письма. -- Best regards, Zakhar mailto:netzah@irkutsk.ru From realloc@realloc.spb.ru Tue Oct 26 17:18:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 0A32F3CEC5E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:18:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16340-07 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-out.wplus.net (smtp-out.wplus.net [195.131.104.143]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 4D10A3CE9F8 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from arisu.tinuviel.ru (ip65.126.adsl.wplus.ru [195.131.126.65]) by relay1.wplus.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/RELAY-DVD) with ESMTP id i9QFHxYg038659 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (helo=[192.168.0.7]) by arisu.tinuviel.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CMT5D-000361-6y for users-ru@opengroupware.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:17:59 +0400 Message-ID: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:41 +0400 From: Stanislav Bogatyrev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, SARE_HEAD_HDR_XSPAMSC X-Spam-Level: Subject: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: realloc@realloc.spb.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, =F4=D5=D4 =CB=D4=CF-=CE=C9=C2=D5=C4=D8 =D6=C9=D7=CF=CA =C5=D3=D4=D8? =E1=D5= ! --=20 Best regards, Stanislav V. Bogatyrev From netzah@irkutsk.ru Tue Oct 26 18:06:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 7B5C33CE9D1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:06:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28123-10 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.ortel.ru (mail.ortel.ru [195.161.238.1]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id A120B3CFA05 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:03:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [195.208.15.34] (ppp34.orient.net.ru [195.208.15.34]) by mail.ortel.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QG2gaG056366 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:02:53 +0900 (IRKST) Message-ID: <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:02:32 +0900 From: "Zakhar V. Bardymov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > Тут кто-нибудь живой есть? Ау! Есть... From realloc@realloc.spb.ru Tue Oct 26 19:38:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 4252B3CE9D1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:38:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11669-05 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:38:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-out.wplus.net (smtp-out.wplus.net [195.131.104.143]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 73E773CE310 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from arisu.tinuviel.ru (ip65.126.adsl.wplus.ru [195.131.126.65]) by relay1.wplus.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/RELAY-DVD) with ESMTP id i9QHcU0v027376 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:38:36 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (helo=[192.168.0.7]) by arisu.tinuviel.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CMVHC-0003AC-4k for users-ru@opengroupware.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:38:30 +0400 Message-ID: <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:39:12 +0400 From: Stanislav Bogatyrev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, SARE_HEAD_HDR_XSPAMSC X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: realloc@realloc.spb.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Zakhar V. Bardymov wrote: >>=F4=D5=D4 =CB=D4=CF-=CE=C9=C2=D5=C4=D8 =D6=C9=D7=CF=CA =C5=D3=D4=D8? =E1= =D5! > =E5=D3=D4=D8... =F0=D2=C9=D1=D4=CE=CF =CF=D3=CF=DA=CE=C1=D7=C1=D4=D8 :) =F4=CF=C7=C4=C1 =D7=CF=D0=D2=CF=D3. =E1 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =CC=C9 =D2=D5=D3=D3=CB=C1=D1 =D4=D2=C1=CE=D3=CC=D1=C3=C9= =D1 OGo =C9=CC=C9 =C8=CF=D4=D1 =C2=D9 =D0=CF=D0=D9=D4=CB=C9 =C5=A3 =D2=C5= =C1=CC=C9=DA=C1=C3=C9=C9? =ED=CF=D6=C5=D4 =CC=C9 =CB=D4=CF-=CE=C9=C2=D5=C4=D8 =D0=CF=C4=C5=CC=C9=D4= =D8=D3=D1 =CF=D0=D9=D4=CF=CD =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=CE=C9=D1 OGo = =C9 =CB=C1=CB=C9=C5 =D0=D2=C9 =DC=D4=CF=CD=20 =D7=CF=DA=CE=C9=CB=C1=C0=D4 =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=D9? --=20 Best regards, Stanislav V. Bogatyrev -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/IT/CC d-(pu) s+: a--- C++++ L+++ P+++ L++++$ E+ W+++ N+++ o+ K+ w--- O-- M- V- PS+ PE-- Y++ PGP- t+ 5++ X++ R++ tv-- b++ DI D+++ G++ e h! r+ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From netzah@irkutsk.ru Tue Oct 26 20:08:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 112563CECAE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17298-09 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:08:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.ortel.ru (mail.ortel.ru [195.161.238.1]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 5F5033CFA19 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [195.208.15.34] (ppp34.orient.net.ru [195.208.15.34]) by mail.ortel.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QI1TxD031827 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:01:30 +0900 (IRKST) Message-ID: <417E90F3.20504@irkutsk.ru> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:01:23 +0900 From: "Zakhar V. Bardymov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > А есть ли русская трансляция OGo или хотя бы попытки её реализации? > Может ли кто-нибудь поделиться опытом использования OGo и какие при этом > возникают проблемы? Все суровые проблемы описаны на сайте OGo... В части о переводах. Бесперспективняк. До сих пор Latin-1 и тому подобное - потому что всех всё устраивает и форсирования перехода на библиотеки, допускающие другие кодировки, ожидать не приходится. Я порывался начать делать переводы. Да ведь зачем, если сам продукт эволюционирует, а возможности применить переведённый текст всё равно так и нет? Здесь нужна работа русских программистов, но пока таких не наблюдается. Сам я мог бы, т.к. имею за плечами 10 лет системного программирования (в серьёзном смысле этого слова), но не располагаю необходимым временем. Best regards, Zakhar V. Bardymov From netzah@irkutsk.ru Tue Oct 26 20:11:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id D226C3CECAE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18233-10 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.ortel.ru (mail.ortel.ru [195.161.238.1]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 5442A3CF9E0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [195.208.15.34] (ppp34.orient.net.ru [195.208.15.34]) by mail.ortel.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QI8ixj036154 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:08:55 +0900 (IRKST) Message-ID: <417E92A5.40607@irkutsk.ru> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:08:37 +0900 From: "Zakhar V. Bardymov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > А есть ли русская трансляция OGo или хотя бы попытки её реализации? > Может ли кто-нибудь поделиться опытом использования OGo и какие при > этом возникают проблемы? Ну и чтобы не быть голословным: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/translation/application.html http://www.opengroupware.org/en/projects/translation/website.html Особенно нравятся следующие места: "OGo currently only works out of the box with ISO-Latin-1/15 (except for the mailer). A result of code being written by a German company for the Germany market, sigh." "Now the good news: the OGo API uses Unicode almost everywhere, so there is high chance that the issue will be resolved quite quickly." Это "quickly" длится уже столько, сколько сам проект (под GNU-лицензией). Ну и для полного счастья: "we can workaround the problems by using ISO-Latin-1 HTML files and by encoding any Non-Latin-1 chars using entities (eg ≻ or ä). We'll see. If we have the Western languages translated, German, Spanish, French, Italien etc, we are a whole lot further in any case." Т.е., как говорится, "спасибо большое"! Best regards, Zakhar V. Bardymov From shelton@sentry.granch.ru Thu Oct 28 10:14:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 9FD553CE382 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:14:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17185-06 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:14:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 8C6663CE1A7 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:14:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [212.20.5.55] (IDENT:1000@sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9S8E8Q2002211 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:14:10 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:14:07 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281514.08537.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> X-Spam-Control: Normal message X-Kaspersky-Checking: Passed X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: shelton@granch.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:18, Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > Hello, > > Тут кто-нибудь живой есть? Ау! Есть-то есть, а что толку? Это первое письмо в рассылку с тех пор как я на нее подписан :-))))) -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Web: http://granch.ru/~shelton Granch Ltd. system administrator, e-mail: achilov [at] granch [dot] ru PGP: 83 CD E2 A7 37 4A D5 81 D6 D6 52 BF C9 2F 85 AF 97 BE CB 0A From shelton@sentry.granch.ru Thu Oct 28 10:26:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 447BF3CE384 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:26:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17185-08 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:26:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id D84F63CE1A7 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:26:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [212.20.5.55] (IDENT:1000@sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9S8QHjQ002275 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:26:17 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:26:14 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> <417E7518.4000306@irkutsk.ru> <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E8BC0.10703@realloc.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281526.15605.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> X-Spam-Control: Normal message X-Kaspersky-Checking: Passed X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Reply-To: shelton@granch.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 00:39, Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > Zakhar V. Bardymov wrote: > > >>Тут кто-нибудь живой есть? Ау! > > Есть... > Приятно осознавать :) > Тогда вопрос. > А есть ли русская трансляция OGo или хотя бы попытки её реализации? > Может ли кто-нибудь поделиться опытом использования OGo и какие при этом > возникают проблемы? К сожалению, это не Сан с опенофисом - уровень фирмы, создавшей подобный проект не тот :-) То ли их пример сана подбодрил, то ли чего, но решили они пойти таким же путем :-) Таким же да не таким :-( У них нет главного, чем берет OOo - аньтернативы виндам. То есть альтернативного продукта, который бы работал под виндой, заменяя MS Outlook, как это делает OOo с офисом. В основной рассылке одно время был тред на тему "Если продкт бесплатный, почему бы зиде не выложить и коннектор оутлука?". На что было отвечено, что стоимость коннектора и так по их мнению предельно низкая и хорошая фирма не может экономить на групвари :-)) Отсюда и проблемы - для внедрения в России, где полно ворованных виндов, нужно только комплексное решение, чтобы менять Exchange Server на корню. Да, конечно, есть вебморда. Но многих ли юзеров заставишь пользоваться англоязычной вебмордой? -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Web: http://granch.ru/~shelton Granch Ltd. system administrator, e-mail: achilov [at] granch [dot] ru PGP: 83 CD E2 A7 37 4A D5 81 D6 D6 52 BF C9 2F 85 AF 97 BE CB 0A From leibman@perm.raid.ru Thu Oct 28 10:41:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 20EDB3CE30F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:41:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26751-01 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gateway.decomcs.ru (214.netcom.ur.ru [195.58.14.214]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id CEE333CE1A7 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gateway (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gateway (Postfix) with SMTP id D03D13E29D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:39:59 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from [90.0.0.38] (unknown [90.0.0.38]) by gateway.decomcs.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F233DFEB for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:39:59 +0600 (YEKST) Message-ID: <4180B0F1.903@perm.raid.ru> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:42:25 +0600 From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=22=EC=C5=CA=C2=CD=C1=CE_=E1=2E_=E0=2E=22?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Subject: Re: [OGo-Users-RU] just testing References: <417E6AD1.2070204@realloc.spb.ru> <200410281514.08537.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> In-Reply-To: <200410281514.08537.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: users-ru-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: users-ru@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: User support (Russian) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Приветствую. Я перешел на open-xchange, чего и вам желаю, там и русификация есть и коннекты разные, с установкой конечно траблы есть, но все одно лучше пока чем opengroupware... Rashid N. Achilov пишет: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:18, Stanislav Bogatyrev wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>Тут кто-нибудь живой есть? Ау! > > > Есть-то есть, а что толку? Это первое письмо в рассылку с тех пор как я на нее > подписан :-))))) From fox@kam-telecom.ru Thu Dec 16 08:06:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Received: from localhost (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 8F4DD3CEBA9 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:06:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.141]) by localhost (mail [213.211.192.141]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01323-07 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:06:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pchelka.kam-telecom.ru (mail.kam-telecom.ru [81.176.185.3]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 0C79C3CE315 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:06:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from axe.kam-x.ru ([10.1.1.252]) by pchelka.kam-telecom.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CepiH-0007X8-SC for users-ru@opengroupware.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:06:14 +0500 From: =?koi8-r?b?68/UxczYzsnLz9cg7cnIwcnM?= Organization: =?koi8-r?b?+uHv?= "=?koi8-r?b?68HNLdTFzMXLz80=?=" To: users-ru@opengroupware.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:06:12 +0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412161206.12273.fox@kam-telecom.ru> X-Virus-Scanned: by a leet scanner. 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