[OGo-Users] Meaning of web-ui output (built from trunk build 1934 + SOPE 4.6 beta on Mac OS X successfully)

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> I'm pleased to report that I have just successfully built and
> installed OpenGroupware 1.1 from trunk (build 1934) with SOPE 4.6 beta
> (containing gnustep-make 1.13) and with apache 2.2.4 on Mac OS X
> Server 10.4.9

Excellent!  Congradulations.
> 
> I am intentionally cross posting this message because the questions I

Uh oh! :)  It is fine to post to multiple lists, if required,  but you
should post to each one separately.  Cut-n-paste! :)

>  have may not be related to OGo running on Mac OS X but I also don't'
> see a lot of people posting about their Mac OS X experiences and
> instead of people complaining about their experiences not working, how
> about being happy about something working and having some positive
> news for a change? 

:)  Always a problem;  people who have no problems keep silent,  thus
all problems seem exaggerated.  
> 
> The last time I built OGo was from version 1.1.6 yummy in August 2006
> and using SOPE 4.5.9 alpha with gnustep-make 1.10, so I noticed a few
> teeny tiny changes when running the web-ui, and thus the formation of
> my questions: 
> 1.) After starting web-ui, I noticed this new message:
>         Apr 29 17:32:38 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: SNS support disabled.
> What is SNS?

I believe this is the Skyrix load balancer,  only included in the
commercial distribution.  You can ignore this.
> 
> 2.) After making the first connection to web-ui from a browser these
> messages appear and are of interest:
>         Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]:
>         <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> Note: no OGo documentation
>         installed!
> 
Yep, I see this one too.  No idea about what it means, beyond and
obvious guess,  but it doesn't affect anything.

> I wonder what mistake I made and where should the OGo documentation be
> installed? Am I missing a defaults entry perhaps? 

I suspect it isn't 'installed' because it doesn't exist. :)

> I didn't see anything special in my previous sys admin / OGo
> installation documentation about this from last year. 
>         Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]:
>         <0x0x2f5aa40[OGoHelpManager]> SP: (null) 
> What does SP with a null value mean? I
>         Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: [ERROR]
>         (116D116D014634D74A) did not find dockable page:
>         'Registration'
>         Apr 29 17:35:06 ogo-webui-1.1 [4461]: SkyDock did not find
>         dockable page Registration

I think there was talk about creating a user registration system, to
register you OGo instance, but it never went anywhere or got removed.
> 
> I also don't recall seeing this error before. Any suggestions on what
> to do to alleviate the Registration dockable page error? 

Ignore it.
> 
> P.S. I'd love to see the core maintainers of OpenGroupware get
> together with Apple so that Apple would bundle OGo with Mac OS X

I'd love to see it included in openSUSE!?

>  Server in a future version such as Leopard like they are doing for
> the CalDAV as part of their forthcoming new calendar server in Leopard
> Server < http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/icalserver.html >
> which reads excerpted:

Yes, because the world needs yet-another-basic-functionality calender
server.  Ugh.
> 
> Apple is also incorporating Ruby on Rails
> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/more.html which is free
> marketing for Rails (this is similar to what I'd love to see Apple do
> with OpenGroupware):

Hey,  Apple is all about the band wagon so of course they are
incorporating nothing-to-see-here-please-move-along Ruby on Rails.  

Sorry,  couldn't restrain myself, just get really tired of the new
*revolutionary* development platform of the year because some LAMPer
finally discovered Model-View-Controller.  Yawn.

> If Apple bundled OpenGroupware with Leopard, it could bring a lot of
> momentum and wider adoption and therefore a more rich community of
> users using OpenGroupware IMHO (note: this is nothing against OpenBSD,
> FreeBSD, or Linux whatsoever). It would just be nice to see
> OpenGroupware in the hands of more people including people who might
> not be greatly skilled at handling the vagaries of sys admin that
> requires patience such as when building OGo and SOPE and gnustep-make
> with mod_ngo for Apache. 

Well... as devil's advocate - OpenGroupware is a "groupware server".
Individuals or little groups probably are legitimately not interested in
such a solution.  There are lots of people who don't "get" groupware;
I'd imagine most of the people that do "get it" have a administrator or
at least a consultant they can call. 

But of course I'd love to see in included in everything. :)